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Old Oct 31, 2022 | 09:41 PM
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Thrown rods today

Made a terrible choice… bought a 60 and it actually wasn’t that bad, great mpg, not terrible issues with it for the 10k I drive it. Than within 30 seconds of noticing a rod knock while driving it made window modifications to the block. Only had 190k on it very odd. Dosent happen too often this early. It was a daily for the guy before me. And for me, it lived hitched to 6-8k lb trailer. Which is nothing crazzy I feel. Anyone else have this happen?

right after all new glow plugs, wires, and injectors
 
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Old Oct 31, 2022 | 10:25 PM
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Any smoke noticed beforehand? Chances are an injector over-fueled the cylinder. Knocks in a diesel mean excessive fueling, and it can happen if a tip has a failure or an injector is loose.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2022 | 02:53 AM
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Where did you get the injectors from?
 
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Old Nov 1, 2022 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TooManyToys.
Any smoke noticed beforehand? Chances are an injector over-fueled the cylinder. Knocks in a diesel mean excessive fueling, and it can happen if a tip has a failure or an injector is loose.
it is possible I am not the one driving at the time it happened. my wife was. It was a hell of day. She was trying to pick me up from the hospital I went in after a hernia surgery complications a blood vessel ruptured in my abdomen and I thought appendix burst had no clue just hurt like hell

I asked her and she just flat says she didn’t even think to look behind her for any smoke. I got them right from full force diesel got about 7k miles since I replaced those. I planned on doing atleast somewhat of tear down to see what went wrong. I just am very busy so I don’t know if I will end up having time. I am trying to run a business and work a full time job. Thanks for that, didn’t even think about that’s
 
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Old Nov 1, 2022 | 06:12 AM
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Where did you get the injectors from?
full force diesel. For all the ones on the passenger side and than the driver side bank was done at a shop from the previous owner I do have that receipt but it dosent say brand
 
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Old Nov 1, 2022 | 06:21 AM
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Sorry about your troubles. Been there, felling like I must have driven over God's favorite cat; why now?

Unfortunately it happens, and it's the bad side of a diesel. Most things go, you lose power of the engine stops. Over fuel; goes nuclear. But it's speculation on my part, using the tell of recent injectors.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2022 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by rjrandy96
Made a terrible choice… bought a 60 and it actually wasn’t that bad, great mpg, not terrible issues with it for the 10k I drive it. Than within 30 seconds of noticing a rod knock while driving it made window modifications to the block. Only had 190k on it very odd. Dosent happen too often this early. It was a daily for the guy before me. And for me, it lived hitched to 6-8k lb trailer. Which is nothing crazzy I feel. Anyone else have this happen?

right after all new glow plugs, wires, and injectors
Could you post a pic?
 
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Old Nov 1, 2022 | 09:44 AM
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Is this on the same vehicle that you ran on "used motor oil, transmission fluid, hydraulic oil, gear oil"?

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1662088-yes-the-7-3-6-0-psd-run-fine-on-used-vegetable-oil-my-latest-conversions.html#post20613174

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1686677-waste-motor-oil-burning-trucks.html#post20339775
 
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Old Nov 1, 2022 | 09:46 AM
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Old Nov 1, 2022 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bismic
Could you post a pic?
not the best pictures hard to get it so you could see anything

as far as waste oil ones yes it is. The several other vehicles Iv done this exact stuff in, up to 40k miles in a 7.3 with same style injectors, and tear down showed nothing other of the ordinary maybe slightly more soot on exhaust but nothing excessive. Iv sold some trucks or VWs do life circumstances, the 7.3 was t boned, ruined a beautiful truck I put a lot of money into, didn’t have a place to store a truck for tear down. Friend bought it, helped him, just too many numerous upgrades to truck and engine to list for why he wanted it all. He used that engine in a 7.3 keep swap and sold it. My experience tells me the fuel has nothing to do with a rod failure. Cheap injector sounds more like it. I don’t know if I will have time for a big tear town but winter is slow time for I will find try to find out.
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Diesel injector manufacturers warn about water or contaminants in the fuel causing an injector tip to blow off. That is what I would be thinking, but hey - I am very conservative most of the time.

I understand you have fuel filters, hopefully they were always OEM!

While I wouldn't rule it out for the 7.3L, I definitely wouldn't consider it on my 6.0L.

Also, I have tremendous respect for Full Force Diesel, can't imagine it being on "that side", or being related to their injectors.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2022 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bismic
Diesel injector manufacturers warn about water or contaminants in the fuel causing an injector tip to blow off. That is what I would be thinking, but hey - I am very conservative most of the time.

I understand you have fuel filters, hopefully they were always OEM!

While I wouldn't rule it out for the 7.3L, I definitely wouldn't consider it on my 6.0L.

i hear that and understand it, but not water in fuel light, stock fuel filter, motorcraft only. One of the very few things I did learn in school, oem filters in every single test I every seen always outperformed every other brand.

if there was significant amounts of water you’d think the wife would of noticed it running rough, she only drove 30 miles while it was on about 3/8 of tank. It ran well before that.

and even so, if we are to blame water in fuel for injector tip exploding, this happens everyday in diesel from the pump. Now who do you blame?

anyhow, if I get the chance I will inspect and see if injectors was the culprit.
 
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The primary fuel filter is designed to remove water - that is why I mentioned OEM fuel filters. Aftermarket ones do so at a questionable efficiency.

The other thing that is critical on the 6.0L is fuel pressure. They need 45 psig minimum. Most experienced forum folks advocate a fuel pressure gauge as a necessity, not a "nicety".
 
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 08:13 PM
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All it would take is one big water slug to kill a tip.
also a sticking spool valve holding the pressure on the
Intensifier piston could slam the pintel into the nozzle
and crack the tip out.

contaminated oil will build up varnish on the spool
valve and intensifier piston
 
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