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CNCFAB
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Or ideally just go with a kc balanced assembly
def do not use impact on the wheel
taking turbo out is the best, and easiest
the ebpv removal is not needed, the valve really isnt much if a performance issue. Lots of guys do prefer to remove the valve and delete the pedestal though
def do not use impact on the wheel
taking turbo out is the best, and easiest
the ebpv removal is not needed, the valve really isnt much if a performance issue. Lots of guys do prefer to remove the valve and delete the pedestal though
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For reverse I use 65 HP Performance unloaded or "2WD Low in reverse" if loaded with firewood, rock or the 5th wheel is strapped to the back. Easiest and safest (driver and equipment wise) way to back a trailer in my opinion.
As for the flutter/surge, it is not good and should be avoided.
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I'm not saying 65 HP Performance is the best, just that it is the best for my application. It allows me to start and drive the truck regardless of the task/work it is set to accomplish. No swapping between tunes.
For reverse I use 65 HP Performance unloaded or "2WD Low in reverse" if loaded with firewood, rock or the 5th wheel is strapped to the back. Easiest and safest (driver and equipment wise) way to back a trailer in my opinion.
As for the flutter/surge, it is not good and should be avoided.
For reverse I use 65 HP Performance unloaded or "2WD Low in reverse" if loaded with firewood, rock or the 5th wheel is strapped to the back. Easiest and safest (driver and equipment wise) way to back a trailer in my opinion.
As for the flutter/surge, it is not good and should be avoided.
I drove with it a bit last night and I really like the 65 HP performance tune and like you, it will be my main tune. I'm going to set it for slot 2. Slot 1 is dead pedal.
My truck smokes black a lot in the 65 HP tune though. Not near as bad as the 140 HP tune though. In the 140 HP tune I can tap the gas while idling in neutral and it'll blow a cloud of black smoke.
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Haven’t had a chance to watch your videos but I’d just run a tune that doesn’t surge until you can recover funds for the KC Balanced Assembly. I’ve also seen good reviews from the KC turbine paired with the Riffraff billet compressor.
Noises when letting off after a hard pull are different than surge and I think referred to as “turbo fart”. It’s kind of a cha-cha-cha noise.
Noises when letting off after a hard pull are different than surge and I think referred to as “turbo fart”. It’s kind of a cha-cha-cha noise.
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Surge is BAD and will cause catastrophic damage eventually.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=19Owc9cPbss
Fixed that ^^^ with Riffraff’s billet wheel. 160/30’s pushing it to 38psi boost here!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tc5Zx7sMHYM
As far as picking tunes, higher HP run hotter EGT and burn more fuel. Your best MPG and lowest EGT will come from STOCK tune. You’ll pick a tune that keeps EGT in check (heavier load produces higher EGT) and returns acceptable MPG.
Right after I got my BTS transmission and tunes I trailered my 4Runner a couple hundred miles to go rock crawling and played with all my different tunes. My hot tune (100hp) pulled like a freight train and only made black smoke if I stabbed the throttle. I could roll into it and keep it clean and no matter what I did EGT never got over 1250*. I was burning vegetable oil, so I didn’t care about MPG. Until I burned all of my vegetable oil.... I estimate my idiotic driving style racing up every steep grade returned 5mpg.... By contrast, I could tow at 22k lbs gross and get +10mpg with the same setup in a 60hp tow tune driving like an old man like I normally did.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=19Owc9cPbss
Fixed that ^^^ with Riffraff’s billet wheel. 160/30’s pushing it to 38psi boost here!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tc5Zx7sMHYM
As far as picking tunes, higher HP run hotter EGT and burn more fuel. Your best MPG and lowest EGT will come from STOCK tune. You’ll pick a tune that keeps EGT in check (heavier load produces higher EGT) and returns acceptable MPG.
Right after I got my BTS transmission and tunes I trailered my 4Runner a couple hundred miles to go rock crawling and played with all my different tunes. My hot tune (100hp) pulled like a freight train and only made black smoke if I stabbed the throttle. I could roll into it and keep it clean and no matter what I did EGT never got over 1250*. I was burning vegetable oil, so I didn’t care about MPG. Until I burned all of my vegetable oil.... I estimate my idiotic driving style racing up every steep grade returned 5mpg.... By contrast, I could tow at 22k lbs gross and get +10mpg with the same setup in a 60hp tow tune driving like an old man like I normally did.
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Surge is BAD and will cause catastrophic damage eventually.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=19Owc9cPbss
Fixed that ^^^ with Riffraff’s billet wheel. 160/30’s pushing it to 38psi boost here!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tc5Zx7sMHYM
As far as picking tunes, higher HP run hotter EGT and burn more fuel. Your best MPG and lowest EGT will come from STOCK tune. You’ll pick a tune that keeps EGT in check (heavier load produces higher EGT) and returns acceptable MPG.
Right after I got my BTS transmission and tunes I trailered my 4Runner a couple hundred miles to go rock crawling and played with all my different tunes. My hot tune (100hp) pulled like a freight train and only made black smoke if I stabbed the throttle. I could roll into it and keep it clean and no matter what I did EGT never got over 1250*. I was burning vegetable oil, so I didn’t care about MPG. Until I burned all of my vegetable oil.... I estimate my idiotic driving style racing up every steep grade returned 5mpg.... By contrast, I could tow at 22k lbs gross and get +10mpg with the same setup in a 60hp tow tune driving like an old man like I normally did.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=19Owc9cPbss
Fixed that ^^^ with Riffraff’s billet wheel. 160/30’s pushing it to 38psi boost here!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tc5Zx7sMHYM
As far as picking tunes, higher HP run hotter EGT and burn more fuel. Your best MPG and lowest EGT will come from STOCK tune. You’ll pick a tune that keeps EGT in check (heavier load produces higher EGT) and returns acceptable MPG.
Right after I got my BTS transmission and tunes I trailered my 4Runner a couple hundred miles to go rock crawling and played with all my different tunes. My hot tune (100hp) pulled like a freight train and only made black smoke if I stabbed the throttle. I could roll into it and keep it clean and no matter what I did EGT never got over 1250*. I was burning vegetable oil, so I didn’t care about MPG. Until I burned all of my vegetable oil.... I estimate my idiotic driving style racing up every steep grade returned 5mpg.... By contrast, I could tow at 22k lbs gross and get +10mpg with the same setup in a 60hp tow tune driving like an old man like I normally did.
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That is classic turbo surge. Some trucks do it (with aftermarket tuning) and some don’t.
KC balanced assembly is a good choice.
KC balanced assembly is a good choice.
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After the GTG I will get me a KC balanced assembly on the way. Along with bellowed up pipes. For now I'll just have to stay out of the hot tunes or at least stay off of the pedal on the hot tunes. 
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I guess I should probably make another thread about this but, by upgrading the turbo with the KC balanced assembly, will this stop my truck from smoking so much? Even in the 65 HP tune, if I give her some gas she blows a bunch of smoke. Especially under load, I have to be easy on the pedal or she just blows this thick black smoke. It's not a big deal, I just need to stay off the pedal a bit when there's people behind me
CNCFAB
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The balanced assembly shouldnt cause much more if any more lag at all, so no, it shouldnt increase the smoke. At higher rpms it would help clean it up.
a 65 tune on stock injectors should not smoke much at all, unless you are mashing it in low rpms
a 65 tune on stock injectors should not smoke much at all, unless you are mashing it in low rpms
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She's not smoking like super terrible but, I just did a hard pull coming out of a 45 zone in fifth gear, or fourth gear, whatever y'all want to call it depending on if y'all considered the lowest gear in the transmission as first or not, but the gear straight down from neutral, I was going 40 when I punched it which is around 1,500 RPM and she smoked thick black until around 1,850 and then it trailed off into Gray and disappeared around 2K. So essentially smoked black thick for around 350 RPM and then gray for another 150. Doesn't seem like much now that I'm writing it. It sure does seem like a nice black trail though. Probably enough for a cop to want to pull me over. I'll try to get a video of it tomorrow. I guess if I was to convert it to how long it was smoking, I'd say probably about 3 to 5 seconds of good black smoke.
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These trucks arent designed to have the go juice layed on em at 1500 or 1600 rpm with a tune. Thats an aweful low rpm to be running around at in my mind, granted I live in the mtns and have 4.10 and 4.30 gears. I try and stay more like 1800-2000 if I am puttering unloaded, often I will just let it run around at 2300 so I dont have to shift as much on turns and small inclines