Starter issues. Tipps for roadside fix?
Laughing Gas
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Hartwig- Just getting back from the cottage/very limited internet. Sorry to hear about your troubles on your vacation with your starter. It can be very frustrating when you work hard all year and want to just relax and enjoy your travels.I went thru a similar situation a few years back when my starter just quit at the cottage with no warning in the winter at -25 Celcius. I attempted everything including taking it completely apart on the kitchen table in the hopes of getting ONE more start just to get home. I finally had to drive two hours away the next day while they brought one in at the local auto parts store. It quit about a year later as well. After a few aftermarket ones I finally purchased a lightly used 6.7 starter that was about two years old. This was the best thing as I do believe that factory original units are better and it does spin noticeably faster.
Please keep us updated and good luck.
Rob
Please keep us updated and good luck.
Rob
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Hartwig,
Sorry to hear of troubles and lost time on your trip. I think we all learn from each other's unfortunate experiences. When I do a 6.4 starter upgrade, the one I replace will be going in the toolbox as a spare on road trips.
Safe travels on your return.
Sorry to hear of troubles and lost time on your trip. I think we all learn from each other's unfortunate experiences. When I do a 6.4 starter upgrade, the one I replace will be going in the toolbox as a spare on road trips.
Safe travels on your return.
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Cargo Master
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From: unfortunately Germany
Thats why we are here 
The question is what all I should take with me. I have felt except for pistons, camshaft, crankshaft and STARTER everything with me.
Behind the seats there are:
Alternator, PCM, FICM, all sensors on the engine, IPR valve, special tools, recovery belts, diagnostic software, serpentine belt, soldering tool, oil, coolant, air compressor, and much more.
Now I add the starter motor.
Maybe I should also take an injector with me.
But then I will need 2 of it....
The question is what all I should take with me. I have felt except for pistons, camshaft, crankshaft and STARTER everything with me.
Behind the seats there are:
Alternator, PCM, FICM, all sensors on the engine, IPR valve, special tools, recovery belts, diagnostic software, serpentine belt, soldering tool, oil, coolant, air compressor, and much more.
Now I add the starter motor.
Maybe I should also take an injector with me.
But then I will need 2 of it....
Hotshot
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Trips over 100 miles, and mostly when towing, I take a spare alternator, starter, and drive belt. I also take electrical tape, special tape for radiator hose, copper tubing for heater hose connections, worm clamps, stainless wire, 18ga twin wire spool, and tools for those items. One gallon of oil, and one gallon of coolant concentrate. Hydraulic bottle jack, electric torque wrench, human head lamp, cordless lamp, and other things that my little brain can't think of.
However, here in the USA, there are dealers and stores where you can get things as these are locally normal vehicles.
However, here in the USA, there are dealers and stores where you can get things as these are locally normal vehicles.
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Cargo Master
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People here look at the truck like at this
Hotshot
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I totally understand the situation, Hartwig.
When you get home and take the starter off, could you post any label on it, or its twin. You don't have the mileage for an OE starter to have issues, which is perplexing.
When you get home and take the starter off, could you post any label on it, or its twin. You don't have the mileage for an OE starter to have issues, which is perplexing.
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Hotshot
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You probably already are going to - Also, check for shorts or opens with the coils cold vs. hot. That's a classic issue for the rebuilders (we don't know if this is one) as they check the starters under cold conditions. It's the same when you bring in a starter or alternator to an auto parts store.
Shooting the starter with an inferred gun at the end of a trip would give you a good reference point.
Shooting the starter with an inferred gun at the end of a trip would give you a good reference point.
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They sell basically aftermarket China parts. So you may be trading in the same category.
You know my preference; an OE starter, and considering the high cost, I have no problems buying used, low mileage salvaged ones. I've never had an issue when I do that.
What I've not tried but is promoted by CNCFab is their Mahle new starter, which I believe is made in Germany. Unfortunately, it looks like they are out of stock right now. You can contact Cory at PS.org or directly; I've talked to him directly, and he is a good guy.
https://cncfab.us/i-30497876-mahle-0...letr-ms52.html
You know my preference; an OE starter, and considering the high cost, I have no problems buying used, low mileage salvaged ones. I've never had an issue when I do that.
What I've not tried but is promoted by CNCFab is their Mahle new starter, which I believe is made in Germany. Unfortunately, it looks like they are out of stock right now. You can contact Cory at PS.org or directly; I've talked to him directly, and he is a good guy.
https://cncfab.us/i-30497876-mahle-0...letr-ms52.html
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I don't know anything about it, but even though there other places that sell it, they all seem to be out except MAYBE these guys:
https://enginepartssuperstore.com/Ca...KW-Z12-AZE4639
Only thread on it that I have noticed:
https://www.powerstroke.org/threads/...d-one.1331881/
I don't have anything against DBElectric, but agree with Jack that it is largely the Chinese parts that are sold. I did buy some of their stuff years ago and couldn't say that I was disappointed, but IIRC there certainly wasn't anything that stood out in the positive category either. I put them on par with OReilly's.
https://enginepartssuperstore.com/Ca...KW-Z12-AZE4639
Only thread on it that I have noticed:
https://www.powerstroke.org/threads/...d-one.1331881/
I don't have anything against DBElectric, but agree with Jack that it is largely the Chinese parts that are sold. I did buy some of their stuff years ago and couldn't say that I was disappointed, but IIRC there certainly wasn't anything that stood out in the positive category either. I put them on par with OReilly's.