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Old Dec 2, 2021 | 08:10 PM
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You seem a little tribalistic. I bet you only drink one type of beer too huh?!
Good point, I didn't mean to exclude the Ram HD, you can drive one of those to see what an HD truck feels like as well, although I am not a fan of the newer 2500s that have coil spring in the rear , that is almost as bad as GM using an IFS.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2021 | 09:13 PM
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I had a GMC 2500 with the Duramax bought new in 2006.
Had nothing but problems with that truck. Left me stranded twice in one year.
Maybe they’re better now.
But considering it’s GM I doubt it.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2021 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 00t444e
More refined meaning weaker and more car like, I used to drive those trucks for work and at the end of the day when I got in my Superduty it actually felt like I was driving a HD truck instead of a Ford Ranger. Also during that year range Ford used the 5R110 transmission which can handle far more HP and torque in stock from than the Allison 1000.
I'd argue that even the Ranger interior held up better than the 03-06 Silverados.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2021 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 00t444e
More refined meaning weaker and more car like, I used to drive those trucks for work and at the end of the day when I got in my Superduty it actually felt like I was driving a HD truck instead of a Ford Ranger. Also during that year range Ford used the 5R110 transmission which can handle far more HP and torque in stock from than the Allison 1000.
can ya really say anything bad about the gm drivetrain when the mighty dana m275 smooshes like a soft loaf of freshly baked bread
 
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Old Dec 3, 2021 | 01:31 AM
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LBZ engines only came in 2006-7 trucks... It was definitely one or the other.
It was a 2006.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2021 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 00t444e
More refined meaning weaker and more car like, I used to drive those trucks for work and at the end of the day when I got in my Superduty it actually felt like I was driving a HD truck instead of a Ford Ranger. Also during that year range Ford used the 5R110 transmission which can handle far more HP and torque in stock from than the Allison 1000.
At first I thought you were joking.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2021 | 08:51 AM
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can ya really say anything bad about the gm drivetrain when the mighty dana m275 smooshes like a soft loaf of freshly baked bread
Funny
 
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Old Dec 3, 2021 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by willynilly
can ya really say anything bad about the gm drivetrain when the mighty dana m275 smooshes like a soft loaf of freshly baked bread
Not much aftermarket support for it either, I would rather have the Ford 10.5, and If you are hauling more weight than the 10.5 can handle you need a Dually.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2021 | 12:05 PM
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Drive a Superduty and you will find out.
I have. Some of us are just confused about your attribution and want to know why you think only Ford makes you feel like you are driving an HD truck.

This is important stuff, don't hold out on us.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2021 | 12:59 PM
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I have. Some of us are just confused about your attribution and want to know why you think only Ford makes you feel like you are driving an HD truck.

This is important stuff, don't hold out on us.
When did I say only Ford makes you feel like you are in an HD truck?
 
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Old Dec 3, 2021 | 02:21 PM
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When did I say only Ford makes you feel like you are in an HD truck?
I feel like I am driving an HD truck whenever I am driving an HD truck. The emblem on the grill has nothing to do with the experience for me. I inferred from your statement, "when I got in my Superduty it actually felt like I was driving a HD truck..." and your antipathy for Ram 3/4 tons, that only Fords meet your standards of being an HD truck. My original query was, "What does driving an HD truck feel like?" Can these feelings be reduced to written expressions or not? Brand bashing does not achieve this. Is it the height, length or girth of the truck that satisfies you most? Is it the stiffness of the suspension that does it? Perhaps really large rubber is the key to your fulfillment. Is it something else?

Just because you don't like or prefer a GM HD or Ram 3/4 ton truck does not make them junk or an unreasonable choice for others.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2021 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowtienomore
I feel like I am driving an HD truck whenever I am driving an HD truck. The emblem on the grill has nothing to do with the experience for me. I inferred from your statement, "when I got in my Superduty it actually felt like I was driving a HD truck..." and your antipathy for Ram 3/4 tons, that only Fords meet your standards of being an HD truck. My original query was, "What does driving an HD truck feel like?" Can these feelings be reduced to written expressions or not? Brand bashing does not achieve this. Is it the height, length or girth of the truck that satisfies you most? Is it the stiffness of the suspension that does it? Perhaps really large rubber is the key to your fulfillment. Is it something else?

Just because you don't like or prefer a GM HD or Ram 3/4 ton truck does not make them junk or an unreasonable choice for others.
Yes driving a Superduty feels like driving and HD truck vs a GM HD that feels like your driving a Ford Ranger. I agree that not everyone needs an HD truck or uses it to it's fullest extent and would like to have a more car like ride, GM trucks are perfect for those people. Also I never said I disliked the Ram HD trucks, I used a Superduty as an example I never implied that it was the only truck that meets my standard of an HD truck, you really need to work on your reading comprehension.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2021 | 02:46 PM
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"What does driving an HD truck feel like?" Can these feelings be reduced to written expressions or not?
So that's a no?

"I inferred," is different than you implied.


 
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Old Dec 3, 2021 | 03:09 PM
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So that's a no?

"I inferred," is different than you implied.
You Inferred incorrectly, and if your driving isn't attuned to the point to where you can tell a difference between driving a GM HD and a Superduty then it is pontless for me to explain it any further.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2021 | 03:23 PM
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I don't mind the design of the GMC version of the truck but that Chevy front end makes the Pontiac Aztec proud!
 
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