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Old Nov 11, 2021 | 06:21 PM
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my 2012 GMC 1500 CCSB is my daily driver and it has been a good comfortable truck I have 321k miles on her currently.Its been a good truck. BUT i love my 2020 F350...and I prefer a straight axle. Im old school

Every truck manufacture is subjective to ones taste
 
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Old Nov 11, 2021 | 06:57 PM
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The last GM I owned was 1983……….they burned me bad enough that I will NEVER even consider another.
Besides, the last year I worked ( 2012), the company issued me a Yukon Denali to drive……….nice rig, but had the most uncomfortable seats I have been in for many years. Every 30-45 minutes I had to get out and walk around.
I don’t care if they gold plate a horse turd, it is still just a horse turd.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2021 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jollyrogr
Interesting. I never know when my F350 is in regen. It's totally transparent.
Maybe I can post up a video on YouTube and then post a link. It was awful and took 15 minutes or so. The truck had a notice that pops up on the dash and then if I remember right you flip to a force regen menu and hold down the air brake switch.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2021 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Louisville Joe
Don't agree with that anymore. GM HD 4X4 front ends are stronger and more stable, particularly at high speeds.

That Chevy is homely though.
Absolutley not, the Dana 60 in the Ford is far better than the GM IFS setup, doesn't wear tires out like an IFS does either.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2021 | 07:31 PM
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Why? No emotions or anecdotes, just facts.
If you aren't going to lift an already tall truck, why is an SFA better than IFS?
Stronger, more reliable, easier and cheaper to work on and get parts for.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 07:25 AM
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We haul a (heavy) TC. Rebuilt tie-rods 3x over the life of our last Chevy. We‘’ll see how the Ford does. So far it has been a more stable platform for hailing our TC.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 07:30 AM
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Because of our local hometown dealership I had contemplated a 2022 Duramax 3500….. but they’ve had no stock, and I REALLY wanted a Ford anyway…

So this week a new 22 3500 duality shows up on their lot, and tonight I pulled in to check it out. Hmmmmm…. I think I made the right decision LOL…. Omgosh, at least in my opinion that Chevy front end compared to the F450……. Yuck…..


And those mirrors!?!?
 
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 08:01 AM
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I have no use for IFS in a 4wd truck. Stronger and more reliable? Than what, older Chevy's?. There is no way the GM IFS is more durable than the Dana super 60. Stronger than 1/2 inch wall 3.5 inch tube steel? Not likely... More stable at speed? Huh? My F350 would run on the speed limiter comfortably all day if I asked it to, how fast are you driving? The IFS has more moving parts, doesn't keep the tires planted on uneven ground like a SFA and I do not think it carries loads nearly as well as the SFA. My plow is 900 lbs. If I bottom the Ford with the weight I still maintain all of my ground clearance. If I bottom the Chevy lots of expensive parts get a lot closer to the ground. Guaranteed front end parts last longer on the Ford SFA that they would on the GM IFS for my application.GM has always made the best "trucks" for people who really do not need trucks ever since they went this direction over 30 years ago.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RidgwaySD
I have no use for IFS in a 4wd truck. Stronger and more reliable? Than what, older Chevy's?. There is no way the GM IFS is more durable than the Dana super 60. Stronger than 1/2 inch wall 3.5 inch tube steel? Not likely... More stable at speed? Huh? My F350 would run on the speed limiter comfortably all day if I asked it to, how fast are you driving? The IFS has more moving parts, doesn't keep the tires planted on uneven ground like a SFA and I do not think it carries loads nearly as well as the SFA. My plow is 900 lbs. If I bottom the Ford with the weight I still maintain all of my ground clearance. If I bottom the Chevy lots of expensive parts get a lot closer to the ground. Guaranteed front end parts last longer on the Ford SFA that they would on the GM IFS for my application.GM has always made the best "trucks" for people who really do not need trucks ever since they went this direction over 30 years ago.
Agreed whole heartily. Ford does this to some degree in the f150. My 94 f150 had more issues with the front 4 wheel drive. I sold it after it blew up.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 08:37 AM
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Agreed whole heartily. Ford does this to some degree in the f150. My 94 f150 had more issues with the front 4 wheel drive. I sold it after it blew up.
I think all the half tons went the way of the car a long time ago. That is why trucks are wildly popular as DD vehicles these days. I am old enough to remember driving solid axle square body Chevy's, my son even had a K-5 for a while. Now they have brought crazy levels of options to SD trucks and we see lots of half ton guys stepping into them because it isn't the hardship it used to be to drive a HD/SD truck every day. I like this progress to a degree. I like that I can have a truck capable of hard work but comfy enough to drive daily and haul clients in if needed. I didn't buy a loaded up SD because those get ridiculous IMO but I do like the refinement that has trickled down to the lower trims based on the new truck paradigm.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by RidgwaySD
I think all the half tons went the way of the car a long time ago. That is why trucks are wildly popular as DD vehicles these days. I am old enough to remember driving solid axle square body Chevy's, my son even had a K-5 for a while. Now they have brought crazy levels of options to SD trucks and we see lots of half ton guys stepping into them because it isn't the hardship it used to be to drive a HD/SD truck every day. I like this progress to a degree. I like that I can have a truck capable of hard work but comfy enough to drive daily and haul clients in if needed. I didn't buy a loaded up SD because those get ridiculous IMO but I do like the refinement that has trickled down to the lower trims based on the new truck paradigm.

Even my 78 F150 had a Dana 44 up front. I do miss that truck.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RidgwaySD
I think all the half tons went the way of the car a long time ago. That is why trucks are wildly popular as DD vehicles these days. I am old enough to remember driving solid axle square body Chevy's, my son even had a K-5 for a while. Now they have brought crazy levels of options to SD trucks and we see lots of half ton guys stepping into them because it isn't the hardship it used to be to drive a HD/SD truck every day. I like this progress to a degree. I like that I can have a truck capable of hard work but comfy enough to drive daily and haul clients in if needed. I didn't buy a loaded up SD because those get ridiculous IMO but I do like the refinement that has trickled down to the lower trims based on the new truck paradigm.
Had a 1977 K5 Blazer small block 400. Solid front axle and short wheel base (DEADLY COMBINATION). Saying that thing rode rough was a understatement! Off-roading one time I hit my head on the door jam so hard it almost knocked me out! Got to love those solid front axles off-road. That thing was a clumsy beast.

Sold it right after that and got a 1994 1500 Z71 extended cab. That thing flew down dirt roads.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by RidgwaySD
I Stronger than 1/2 inch wall 3.5 inch tube steel? Not likely... .
its 3.75 OD and 3/8 wall. aparently you dont know even the basics about your own truck
 
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 11:05 AM
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Had a 1977 K5 Blazer small block 400. Solid front axle and short wheel base (DEADLY COMBINATION). Saying that thing rode rough was a understatement! Off-roading one time I hit my head on the door jam so hard it almost knocked me out! Got to love those solid front axles off-road. That thing was a clumsy beast.

Sold it right after that and got a 1994 1500 Z71 extended cab. That thing flew down dirt roads.
I grew up being a Chevy guy as a kid with many cars (Chevelle) and trucks and when I started raising the family we bought a 2001 GMC Yukon XL (suburban), 2500, 6.0L, 4.10 axle. What an awesome vehicle that was. Sold it after 12 years @ 350K original miles. Nothing but good maintenance. Towed my toy hauler for two years with it until my first diesel, a 2005 RAM DRW. I think GM lost it's way after the 2008 crash and has never really recovered. I had a 2500HD with the 6 speed Allison from that era and loved that truck. IFS and all!! Unless you're a real off-roader, or a rock crawler, get over the IFS versus Dana crap. The GM's ride and drive better with the IFS and that's what most people need. The rest just like to say "Dana". Why? Guess I got on a rant
 
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 11:10 AM
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The thing to keep your eye on, and how Ford responds, is supposedly the 2023 Duramax is going to have 505hp 1085tq
 
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