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Old Aug 26, 2021 | 10:59 PM
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Crank No Start

Started truck about two weeks ago and it idled for approx. 5 minutes then shut off. Hasn’t started since. Both batteries are 10/20. Throwing codes, p1668, p0470, p1746, PCA, and PCM. Ordered a new CPS. In the past that seems to be the issue. I haven’t had these codes before, but any ailment seems to be fixed with a fresh CPS. The IDM was replaced in 2015. I have no code for CPS. I have no rpm on crank and when I emptied fuel bowl it did not refill. I have checked all looms and have no bare wires or loose wires. All relays were tested in horn slot. No blown fuses either. The driver side uvch was replaced a year ago. Didn’t have time to do passenger side, but has been running fine since the replacement. Any help would be great.

sorry if this is poorly written, I’m four scotches deep.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 12:54 AM
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Does your fuel gauge read correctly on both tanks? If not I suspect fuel tank selector valve is stuck and that might explain no fuel flowing to your bowl.
The no RPM tach is normally CPS... Is it cranking fast enough? - it won't even TRY to start if cranking too slowly.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Brokein2
Does your fuel gauge read correctly on both tanks? If not I suspect fuel tank selector valve is stuck and that might explain no fuel flowing to your bowl.
The no RPM tach is normally CPS... Is it cranking fast enough? - it won't even TRY to start if cranking too slowly.
I think there is an issue with the selector because for years if I switched tanks it would spit and sputter and stall like it sucked up a bunch of air. So I only use the front tank. It’s showing 1/4 tank in front tank. Yeah it seems like a pretty solid crank. New CPS will be in today. Have had truck charging overnight so hopefully when the CPS comes in I have fresh enough power to start. I’ll post back with what I find.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 06:26 AM
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Put more fuel in front tank and try again. Maybe your fuel tank pickup (Christmas tree) fell off, broke apart?
 
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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 06:46 AM
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Put more fuel in front tank and try again. Maybe your fuel tank pickup (Christmas tree) fell off, broke apart?
Need the truck running to get fuel in it haha
 
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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 07:56 AM
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Got a five gallon portable tank? Not trying to be a ***, just trying to help. Do a search on here and you'll see many people have had problems getting fuel to the bowl at 1/4 tank or less.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 08:31 PM
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You said you don't have any RPM signal, that means the PCM thinks the key is on and it's waiting for that signal to fire the injectors. No tach signal = injectors not firing. The PCM doesn't know the engine is cranking.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 10:03 PM
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You said you don't have any RPM signal, that means the PCM thinks the key is on and it's waiting for that signal to fire the injectors. No tach signal = injectors not firing. The PCM doesn't know the engine is cranking.

i put in a new cps. No change. Another thought I had is my batteries are always low. Could my alternator have died, killed the batteries, causing the original stall, and now even with a recharge there isn’t enough umph to fire everything? I started the passenger uvch tonight. Will finish tomorrow or Sunday. Would a faulty pcm throw the p1668 code?

may bot be of importance, but this evening when trying to crank I noticed that the engine temp light and the fuel filter light were on.

 
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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by oldbird1965
Got a five gallon portable tank? Not trying to be a ***, just trying to help. Do a search on here and you'll see many people have had problems getting fuel to the bowl at 1/4 tank or less.
I didn’t take it that way at all. So I went out this evening and tried to crank it. My fuel was at 1/2 tank not 1/4. I also had fuel back in the bowl. So that rules out a bad pump and it being a fuel issue. Right?

 
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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 10:10 PM
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Sounds as though it is drawing from your tank...have you checked the actual fuel pressure while cranking? (obviously someone has to help unless you are the Flash)
 
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