Notices
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 2003 - 2007 F250, F350 pickup and F350+ Cab Chassis, 2003 - 2005 Excursion and 2003 - 2009 van

Reinstalled egr valve

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 10, 2021 | 01:30 PM
  #1  
highboy1975's Avatar
highboy1975
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,110
Likes: 32
From: southwest pa
Reinstalled egr valve

So a few weeks ago i decided to get the 6.0 fan clutch situation straightened out. I removed the 7.3 clutch and installed a new 6.0 clutch from napa. I have no idea if this fixed my former not working fan clutch issue or not. I ran it a few days and decided to reinstall an egr valve for safe measure. I pulled the sinister blockoff plate and tightened a used valve into the hole and plugged it in. Since then all ive done is pull my camper. It pulls fine and the fan clutch is working perfect. I saw 226 once pulling 7 miles at 6% on a 95 degree day but it kicks in at 218 and cools it right down. Since we got to pigeon forge im noticing some lag and it doesnt want to build boost without the load. I can get to 18psi but mostly hangs in single digits. It definately made 27psi with the camper attached.

Truck is an 03 drw
Strategy is vxap2n2
Map is around 14 koeo
hits almost 4000psi icp
Ipr duty cycle is around 23% at idle

ive noticed since i plugged in the egr the turbo will sweep at idle from 15 to 85% and it doesnt produce the steady 03 whistle it used to. I want to unplug the egr but i need the fan to work. Since i plugged the egr back in, could a kam reset fix this? The egr function shouldnt effect the boost since theres no egr cooler in the truck at all, but its been screwy since i put the egr back in. Any suggestions? The x4 im using doesnt show ebp but that should be inferred anyway. Any suggestions?
 
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2021 | 04:47 PM
  #2  
highboy1975's Avatar
highboy1975
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,110
Likes: 32
From: southwest pa
Now im sitting here after some driving and vgt duty cycle is at .5 constant. Its not doing the sweeping anymore like it was. Truck seems ok at low throttle but when i get after it the lag is pretty pronounced.

Icp 635
Ipr .24
Eot/ect 186
Battery 13.5
Ficm 47.50-48
Baro 14.18
Map 14.18

I checked for leaks last night, couldnt come up with any. This almost has to be egr related since thats what changed. It was a used egr and was clean when i dropped it in, but it should just be giving a reading to the pcm for the fan and the valve shouldnt be causing a boost leak. I think ill try the kam reset when we get back to the camper. Do i have to wait the 10 minutes before driving? Or can i unhook the batteries and all that and do the reconnect/startup later when we go to leave again later this evening?
 
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2021 | 09:31 PM
  #3  
IHateCommieCars's Avatar
IHateCommieCars
Logistics Pro
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 4,673
Likes: 531
From: Houston, Texas
I don't think the EBP is inferred, but that's one of the easy things to check, along with the vacuum line going to the top of the passenger valve cover. Pull the EBP sensor and run a piece of weedeater string down the tube to make sure it's unblocked. Do the same with the stub going to the valve cover after you remove that hose. And check that hose for cracks/hole. Either of those will mess with your turbo. Other than that, some of the guys here can help.
 
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2021 | 09:37 PM
  #4  
IHateCommieCars's Avatar
IHateCommieCars
Logistics Pro
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 4,673
Likes: 531
From: Houston, Texas
BTW, a plugged up EBP or broken/plugged hose are very common on trucks our age. Soot just builds up over the years. If you've never cleaned those tubes before, I wouldn't be surprised at all. Mine was clogged and had the same symptoms you described. Thought I needed a turbo. Weedeater string later, all was great. This is just wild speculation, but I wonder if deleting the EGR keeps more soot in the exhaust.
 
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2021 | 09:40 PM
  #5  
Don Naslund's Avatar
Don Naslund
Laughing Gas
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 830
Likes: 39
From: Whittier
How old is the turbo? Has it been cleaned lately? You could just have a stuck plate in the turbo.
 
Reply
Old Jul 11, 2021 | 09:41 AM
  #6  
highboy1975's Avatar
highboy1975
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,110
Likes: 32
From: southwest pa
Originally Posted by IHateCommieCars
BTW, a plugged up EBP or broken/plugged hose are very common on trucks our age. Soot just builds up over the years. If you've never cleaned those tubes before, I wouldn't be surprised at all. Mine was clogged and had the same symptoms you described. Thought I needed a turbo. Weedeater string later, all was great. This is just wild speculation, but I wonder if deleting the EGR keeps more soot in the exhaust.
I replaced it with the manifold about 2 years ago. Ill have to see if i can turn something up, i didnt pack the trimmer for vacation. The egr is downstream of the ebp, but i would think having the egr would make more soot.
 
Reply
Old Jul 11, 2021 | 09:44 AM
  #7  
highboy1975's Avatar
highboy1975
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,110
Likes: 32
From: southwest pa
Originally Posted by Don Naslund
How old is the turbo? Has it been cleaned lately? You could just have a stuck plate in the turbo.
Ill have to pull the turbo when i get home. It pulls the camper fine so im not going to get into that much of a deal at a campground. Its been a few years, but it was good right up until i installed the egr valve.
 
Reply
Old Jul 11, 2021 | 12:43 PM
  #8  
bismic's Avatar
bismic
Fleet Owner
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 27,900
Likes: 3,617
Club FTE Gold Member
All 03's and early 04's have the inferred EBP strategy if the PCM was updated in 2006 (IIRC) or later.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Jul 11, 2021 | 03:43 PM
  #9  
highboy1975's Avatar
highboy1975
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,110
Likes: 32
From: southwest pa
Originally Posted by bismic
All 03's and early 04's have the inferred EBP strategy if the PCM was updated in 2006 (IIRC) or later.
vxap2n2 is the strategy. My research says its supposed to sweep and it does.


Theres a video with the veins audibly sweeping, so i know thats happening. The x4 shows 15-85%. Im going to try the vgt relearn today and see where that gets me. I hate to throw a set of filters at it when these only have about 3000 miles on them. The lag does seem more pronounced above 2500rpms but it was fine before egr, so thats making me think its computer or electrical related.
 
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2021 | 02:09 PM
  #10  
highboy1975's Avatar
highboy1975
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,110
Likes: 32
From: southwest pa
Looks like ive found my problem. My reflective insulation back my the driver side flex joint is now black. Its really tough to see that far in there, but its either soot or undercoating, but im thinking soot since its not both sides. Im planning on cleaning the turbo since i have to pull it to remove the up pipes.

I just Rewatched my video and caught my daughter calling the dog a butthole.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
D Craig
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
10
Oct 1, 2018 11:35 AM
Jeff Watts
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
4
May 17, 2015 09:00 PM
indyraven
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
4
Jul 6, 2013 10:42 PM
hakukamana
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
16
Apr 23, 2013 04:53 AM
brandon.edwards
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
1
Apr 1, 2013 06:33 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:47 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE