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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 12:39 AM
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With the 6k springs it would feel pretty close to the heavy service springs unloaded (1/2 inch over stock). Mine was that way. Perfectly fine ride but did have bumpsteer a good stabilizer fixed.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 11:31 AM
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I am just starting to look at springs and have seen heavy duty 6k springs and extra heavy duty 6k springs so I need to see what the differences are, if any, and go from there. Already installed a Kelderman dual stabilizer, Fox shocks, and I also have an aftermarket track bar and drag link. That's about as good as it's going to get up front so I figure a bump up in the coil spring weight will bring it back to, or just a bit over, the stock ride height I had before the install.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SARDiverDan
I am just starting to look at springs and have seen heavy duty 6k springs and extra heavy duty 6k springs so I need to see what the differences are, if any, and go from there.
I wish there was a definitive list of coil spring choices, along with application year, weight ratings and part#. So far I haven't found any threads or posts that show that in a clear way. Most seem to be lacking or have conflicting info.
Do your 2019 5600lb coils have any part numbers on them?
 
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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 01:48 PM
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Just get a vin off ebay or copart. Should have pics of the door tags with gawr and vin. 5990 lbs. is what you want.

The factory springs are pretty cheap I have read.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 04:08 PM
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Do your 2019 5600lb coils have any part numbers on them?
This is the tag that is on my 5600 coil on the front.

 
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe T
With the 6k springs it would feel pretty close to the heavy service springs unloaded (1/2 inch over stock). Mine was that way. Perfectly fine ride but did have bumpsteer a good stabilizer fixed.
Bumpsteer is not fixed with a SS, that is death wobble. Bump Steer is fixed by proper alignment of your Pittman arm, it is not centered and it has to be centered. Lots of folks confuse DW and Bumpsteer, two different animals two different solutions....

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I am just starting to look at springs and have seen heavy duty 6k springs and extra heavy duty 6k springs so I need to see what the differences are, if any, and go from there. Already installed a Kelderman dual stabilizer, Fox shocks, and I also have an aftermarket track bar and drag link. That's about as good as it's going to get up front so I figure a bump up in the coil spring weight will bring it back to, or just a bit over, the stock ride height I had before the install.
Not sure of the diff between HD and Extra??

Here is my door jam
 
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Old Jun 21, 2021 | 05:39 PM
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I went over to a local dealership today and looked up the 6k coil springs. The part number is 5C3Z-5310-CA for the 6k springs. That matches with the “C” code on your sticker so they should be the same. From what information I can gather, these springs will set the stock truck about and one inch higher than the 5600 springs. If that is the case, I should raise the front about 1/2 inch over the way it was before I added the bumper.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 10:04 PM
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UPDATE - Not sure anyone gives a rats but for those that may be going this route, here is a quick update.

Late this afternoon I replaced my 5600 coil springs with some 6000 springs. The swap was easy and took about 1.5 hours. Jack up the front, place jack stands under the straight section of the frame rail (basically middle or so of front door), remove the top bolt on the sway bar and bottom bolt of the shock. Lower jack on front until coil is loose. The hardest part is getting those shocks back in.

So, the truck sat at 32.5” stock with 5600 springs. When I added the Ranch Hand bumper, it dropped to 32”. After adding the 6000 springs, it came back up to 32.25”. I had hoped for a bit more rise but the truck takes smaller bumps better now with the new springs. I will get a better idea how it will compare when I take it out on a longer drive.

Anyway, if anyone is going down this road and has a question, I will try and help you with any info I may have…
 
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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 10:16 PM
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Sounds like that was the right move.

If you decide not to hold on to the 5600 springs, I'm still interested, if not cost prohibitive because of shipping.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2021 | 01:44 PM
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Going to hang on to them for a bit to make sure these new ones work out. Not sure where you are located, I'm out in the IE.
 
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Originally Posted by SARDiverDan
I also have an aftermarket track bar and drag link.
What drag link do you have?
 
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https://www.pmfsuspension.com/2005-2...link_p_28.html
 
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Been looking at these. You running the heim joint version?
 
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No, I have the direct replacement version as my truck is stock height with no plans of doing any type of off-roading that a standard system could not handle.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2021 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SARDiverDan
UPDATE - Not sure anyone gives a rats but for those that may be going this route, here is a quick update.

Late this afternoon I replaced my 5600 coil springs with some 6000 springs. The swap was easy and took about 1.5 hours. Jack up the front, place jack stands under the straight section of the frame rail (basically middle or so of front door), remove the top bolt on the sway bar and bottom bolt of the shock. Lower jack on front until coil is loose. The hardest part is getting those shocks back in.

So, the truck sat at 32.5” stock with 5600 springs. When I added the Ranch Hand bumper, it dropped to 32”. After adding the 6000 springs, it came back up to 32.25”. I had hoped for a bit more rise but the truck takes smaller bumps better now with the new springs. I will get a better idea how it will compare when I take it out on a longer drive.

Anyway, if anyone is going down this road and has a question, I will try and help you with any info I may have…
I suspect you're not going to see huge amount of "lift" between springs unless you're going from one of the lightest rates to one of the heaviest.

I just have the brush guard on my F250 gasser, and I could feel the weight. I swapped my 4400lb coils with 5200 coils, plus a 1-inch Daystar spacer. This resulted in only about 1.25" but gave me the solid feel and handling I was looking for. Feel, of course, may be subjective from person to person, but this ended up pretty much exactly where I wanted it.
 
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