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Old Mar 12, 2021 | 09:19 AM
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The only other potential causes listed for that PCM code I see are IDM relay faulty or PCM faulty.
Just spoke to a guy that does diesel work and he said go back to basics. Start at fuel delivery system. Check pressure from pump to bowl. So guess got to find a gauge that will allow for that hook-up. That if all is checking out electrically as in resistance. Then fuel delivery might or could cause this due to injectors not getting correct flow and could throw a code. At this point that is the only thing I haven't touched..
 
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Taken from the 7.3L PSD Tech Folder.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2021 | 09:33 AM
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Taken from the 7.3L PSD Tech Folder.
Awesome, thanks. Would Harbor Freight have one? Or have to order online?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2021 | 10:29 AM
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Any WOG(water,oil,gas) gauge will work. Then it's just a hose barb for connecting gauge to hose and clamps so nothing leaks. Any local auto parts store or farm and ranch supply store should have everything you need.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2021 | 04:16 PM
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Fuel supply is not causing your codes.

Improperly shimmed injectors could, loose UVCH or even an actual bad IDM.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2021 | 04:33 PM
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I can't see how a fuel issue or bad injectors will throw a P1316, that's electric and IDM issues.

Ever check if the 4 pin harness rubbing and shorting on the driver side valve cover? That is a classic for intermittent electric gremlins.

The green GPCM connector in the pic above looks like it has a burnt pin.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2021 | 08:19 PM
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Fuel supply is not causing your codes.

Improperly shimmed injectors could, loose UVCH or even an actual bad IDM.
Just replaced the IDM and ohms tested from IDM to injectors 3.3 ohms on all. After cleaning the P1316 have done buzz test, demand test and all the others that FORSCAN can do and will get no errors. But as soon as I go to restart my truck the P1316 reappears.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2021 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by aawlberninf350
I can't see how a fuel issue or bad injectors will throw a P1316, that's electric and IDM issues.

Ever check if the 4 pin harness rubbing and shorting on the driver side valve cover? That is a classic for intermittent electric gremlins.

The green GPCM connector in the pic above looks like it has a burnt pin.
I've cleaned all harness that relate to the areas in question and haven't any chaffing and as stated before I have done a resistance test. The IDM was replaced last Monday. I'm just pulling my hair out on this. MPG sucks at 9 to 10 MPG.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2021 | 08:43 PM
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I didn't read the whole thread but from the list that is a couple posts up I didn't see anything on cleaning/ replacing exhaust bake pressure tube? This is known to effect fuel mileage, just a thought
 
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Please break down your injector "rebuild" for me.

Was new outer orings(were them shot?) and solenoid shimming all that you did?If so,those sticks needs some love.

​​​​Does Tc lockup multiply your vibration?
If so,injectors aren't performing like them should be.
 
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Originally Posted by SkySkiJason
More specifically - the high to low side open codes. When the injector body is not flat/true, they need to be machined for optimal operation. Shimming does not fix all the problems. 310k miles was a good run. It’s probably time for a proper rebuild.





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Did you do the $0.52 mod? Could be loose UVCH on passenger side.

Injectors are suspect. Improper shimming can cause those codes.

Or, it could be IDM.

That GPCM pigtail will need to be replaced. I strongly recommend removing that harness and changing pigtail on bench. I used an International ‘repair kit’ on a couple of trucks, but it’s been awhile. Not sure if that is still an option.
Originally Posted by SkySkiJason
Fuel supply is not causing your codes.

Improperly shimmed injectors could, loose UVCH or even an actual bad IDM.
There has been a recurring theme here.

Where did your ‘new’ IDM come from? I recently went through (3) to find one that didn’t throw P1316.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2021 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SkySkiJason
There has been a recurring theme here.

Where did your ‘new’ IDM come from? I recently went through (3) to find one that didn’t throw P1316.
Got my IDM from Diesel Power Products.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2021 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Stubbornazz
Got my IDM from Diesel Power Products.
I haven't looked, so I cannot say where they get their IDM's from. There are several resellers out there that turn sub-par work. I am not saying you bought one of these, but there are very few places I would purchase an IDM from and they are below.
  1. Diesel Tech Chattanooga - https://www.dieseltechchatt.com/coll...s/7-3-products
  2. Riffraff - https://www.riffraffdiesel.com/idm-7...-module-94-03/
  3. RAE - https://www.remanautoelectronics.com...3L-IDM-HP.aspx
We have seen bad IDM's time and time again... Almost as much as oil impression or turbo 1st world problem threads, almost. Again, I am not saying your problem is the new to you IDM, but it can only be a few more things now.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2021 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by FinnishStroker
Please break down your injector "rebuild" for me.

Was new outer orings(were them shot?) and solenoid shimming all that you did?If so,those sticks needs some love.

​​​​Does Tc lockup multiply your vibration?
If so,injectors aren't performing like them should be.
On the injector rebuild, I tore down the injector completely. Replaced every internal o-ring, the two ball bairings, lower spring and new armature hold down screw. Only shimmed I believe 3 of the injectors. But verified that wasn't more than .004. Then new outer orings.


 
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Old Mar 13, 2021 | 08:32 AM
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I haven't looked, so I cannot say where they get their IDM's from. There are several resellers out there that turn sub-par work. I am not saying you bought one of these, but there are very few places I would purchase an IDM from and they are below.
  1. Diesel Tech Chattanooga - https://www.dieseltechchatt.com/coll...s/7-3-products
  2. Riffraff - https://www.riffraffdiesel.com/idm-7...-module-94-03/
  3. RAE - https://www.remanautoelectronics.com...3L-IDM-HP.aspx
We have seen bad IDM's time and time again... Almost as much as oil impression or turbo 1st world problem threads, almost. Again, I am not saying your problem is the new to you IDM, but it can only be a few more things now.
Is there any way to test the IDM to verify if a problem or not? Only thing I haven't done which someone suggested was do a complete PCM reset.
 
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