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Old Aug 23, 2020 | 12:54 PM
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any opinion on PPE and Rudy's coolers?
 
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Old Aug 23, 2020 | 09:17 PM
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Short answer "software". EGR on any engine, but especially a turbo diesel, is an epicly bad idea that only government bureaucrats would support. Unfortunately the factory software can be problematic, if the EGR is deleted, in two areas. First if the PCM doesn't "see", electrically speaking, the EGR valve it doesn't properly control the electronic engine cooling fan. The result is the fan isn't commanded to 100% even though the engine is hot and needs cooling. If the truck is driven empty / used lightly the owner can be unaware of the problem because there has never been a need for maximum cooling. This kind of user may only note hmm my A/C isn't as cold sitting at a light or idling for a while. There are a couple of fixes, 1st just leave the EGR valve hooked up and the system works as programmed. 2nd install a manual override to force the fan to 100% AKA blue wire mod. 3rd remove the computer controlled fan and install a mechanical fan out of the 7.3.
The second problem is that during heavy load / sustained high power operation the factory software will command EGR flow at high load/temps purely to reduce combustion temps, not to meet any emission requirements. This is not what I would have done, (I would favor a fueling reduction to control temps) but that is not what Ford programmed and as a result, if you just delete the EGR system, change nothing else, and then continue to work it hard like a truck yes you may damage it (melt the pistons). The solutions to this problem are many, the simplest being to alter the programming however the EPA has aggressively prosecuted many shops for this and as a result almost impossible to get it done today. However the next couple of options that occur to me are, in no particular order, 1st install a good monitoring solution and let off the throttle if/when it gets to hot. 2nd leave the EGR system operable and tuning mostly stock unless... 3rd perform modifications that reduce or eliminate the problem ( high flow exhaust, better intercooler, high flow intake, better turbo etc.(basically any mods that reduce EGT's) 4th install a water/methanol spray system that is activated by high EGT's. anyhow thats my .02 Good luck, Russ
 
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Old Aug 23, 2020 | 09:20 PM
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Lots of reading ...
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...egr-valve.html
 
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Old Aug 23, 2020 | 09:33 PM
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My tuning must be written to command the fan without egr. I monitor fan speed on torque pro and it hums along when I work the truck. Also have ported intake, turbo back, cold air intake etc. still might do the blue wire mod at some point.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2020 | 03:12 PM
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today I remove the 8 glow plugs and all come full of oil , no coolant inside cylinders so far .... I going to see if the engine turns...where the oil and coolant did go???
 
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Old Sep 10, 2020 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mrwrench
Any recommendation on new egr cooler and oil cooler for my 05 F250 ?
I did the one below + a new FOMOCO oil cooler in my 2005. I am not trusting "tunes" since the EPA will "spank" them if they catch them.

My EGR cooler failed at 41,000 miles last December.


 
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Old Sep 10, 2020 | 05:25 PM
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engine turns without glow plugs
 
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Old Sep 10, 2020 | 05:37 PM
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Glow plugs always come out oily. They go through the rocker box and the body is open to oil. When you pull em out the oil runs down to the tip. It does “look” like a problem but you’re good.

I’m not sure about the coolant. That shouldn’t be low or leak from changing glow plugs.
 
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I vacuum the holes before remove them bcoz I had to break the connectors.....
 
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Old Sep 10, 2020 | 08:34 PM
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Vacuuming them does nothing, everything has already dropped.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2020 | 12:41 PM
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ok, i just checked the compression and the values are acceptable , I'm going continue disassemble to replace the 2 cooler , check ipr etc thanks
 
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