Notices
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DP Tuner

thinking its time!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 17, 2020 | 06:23 AM
  #46  
Listor's Avatar
Listor
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,613
Likes: 106
From: Albuquerque
what are your thoughts on this?

https://dieselcare.store/products/tu...BoCJVYQAvD_BwE
https://www.riffraffdiesel.com/compl...hoCsCcQAvD_BwE
https://www.riffraffdiesel.com/inter...it-7-3l-99-03/

also what is the advantage to deleting the evb?
 
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2020 | 06:38 AM
  #47  
FordTruckNoob's Avatar
FordTruckNoob
FTE Chapter Leader
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 13,077
Likes: 4,692
From: Henderson, NV
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Listor
Less restriction in the exhaust and elimination of a common source of oil leaks.
 
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2020 | 06:41 AM
  #48  
Listor's Avatar
Listor
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,613
Likes: 106
From: Albuquerque
Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
Less restriction in the exhaust and elimination of a common source of oil leaks.
ok so isn't this also where you would install and engine brake?
 
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2020 | 06:43 AM
  #49  
FordTruckNoob's Avatar
FordTruckNoob
FTE Chapter Leader
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 13,077
Likes: 4,692
From: Henderson, NV
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Listor
ok so isn't this also where you would install and engine brake?
You mean exhaust brake? Yes. Some people have turned the EBPV into an exhaust brake of sorts. Be careful installing an exhaust brake if your valve springs are stock though.
 
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2020 | 06:51 AM
  #50  
Listor's Avatar
Listor
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,613
Likes: 106
From: Albuquerque
Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
You mean exhaust brake? Yes. Some people have turned the EBPV into an exhaust brake of sorts. Be careful installing an exhaust brake if your valve springs are stock though.
yes sorry exhaust brake, so deleting it completely would be a good thing
 
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2020 | 06:57 AM
  #51  
FordTruckNoob's Avatar
FordTruckNoob
FTE Chapter Leader
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 13,077
Likes: 4,692
From: Henderson, NV
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Listor
yes sorry exhaust brake, so deleting it completely would be a good thing
I depends. The EBPV is handy for fast warmup in the colder climates. I've kept mine and plan to install an exhaust brake when I go SXE/T4.
 
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2020 | 07:14 AM
  #52  
SkySkiJason's Avatar
SkySkiJason
Hotshot
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,782
Likes: 2,142
From: N.GA Mountains
Club FTE Gold Member
I don’t know about that diesel care kit. Those up- pipes are under $100 and rebuild kit is $60 and the new compressor wheel that you need is anywhere from $60-$200. A used turbo that you can rebuild is $150 and up. Did I mention that if your wheels aren’t hitting the housings you can just rebuild your turbo?

My confidence is low that the turbo is your problem if it doesn’t have any shaft play. If you remove the downpipe and don’t find evidence that oil has been being dumped out of the turbo, I’m going to say the turbo is not your problem.

It costs about $1 to DIY delete the EBPV if you want. We typically do this to increase reliability by eliminating this common external oil leak point.



Deleted EBPV. I welded this one, but you can drill/tap/plug it if you don’t have access to a welder.



You can see the plug for deleted EBPV pedestal here. I’ve done this to dozens of these trucks and rebuilt lots of turbos.

Blue paint and the gray is VHT 2000* ceramic coating.




Riffraff boots are an excellent choice. I strongly recommend plenum inserts as well. I also like the 6637 style filter to replace broken stock air filter housings. I think I have a write up about how I do these somewhere?
 
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2020 | 07:19 AM
  #53  
Walleye Hunter's Avatar
Walleye Hunter
Hotshot
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 10,750
Likes: 1,065
From: Douglassville, PA
Originally Posted by SkySkiJason
I see this suggested a lot...

It is basically impossible for oil to get in the fuel filter on a stock (deadheaded) truck. There is no communication back to the filter.

On OBS trucks (regulated return) -different story.
Now you have me wondering...the notion that oil can end up in the fuel tank through bad injector O-rings is like common knowledge around here. Yet when I think about what you put there I see what you are saying. I mean, more than one has opened up their fuel filter and seen black filter element. So...what gives?
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-3

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-6

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

 Joe Kucinski
Old Apr 17, 2020 | 07:31 AM
  #54  
Listor's Avatar
Listor
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,613
Likes: 106
From: Albuquerque
Originally Posted by SkySkiJason
I don’t know about that diesel care kit. Those up- pipes are under $100 and rebuild kit is $60 and the new compressor wheel that you need is anywhere from $60-$200. A used turbo that you can rebuild is $150 and up. Did I mention that if your wheels aren’t hitting the housings you can just rebuild your turbo?

My confidence is low that the turbo is your problem if it doesn’t have any shaft play. If you remove the downpipe and don’t find evidence that oil has been being dumped out of the turbo, I’m going to say the turbo is not your problem.

It costs about $1 to DIY delete the EBPV if you want. We typically do this to increase reliability by eliminating this common external oil leak point.



Deleted EBPV. I welded this one, but you can drill/tap/plug it if you don’t have access to a welder.



You can see the plug for deleted EBPV pedestal here. I’ve done this to dozens of these trucks and rebuilt lots of turbos.

Blue paint and the gray is VHT 2000* ceramic coating.




Riffraff boots are an excellent choice. I strongly recommend plenum inserts as well. I also like the 6637 style filter to replace broken stock air filter housings. I think I have a write up about how I do these somewhere?
My biggest problem right now is time, i am not in quarantine as many others are, self employed with many projects going! Being a daily driver hauling tools all the time is very hard to put it down for a few days , i will however have the weekend free so can pull the up pipes and take a look, will also check my fuel filter, just changed it a couple weeks ago and remember it being pretty black.

Won't i need to take the turbo apart to find damage if there is no play in the shaft?

did not know the plenum could get squished from over tightening the clamps
is this more along the lines your thinking/suggestions, although i still need to find out if the turbo is dumping oil into the exhaust , i will try to get free early today so i have some time this evening!
https://www.riffraffdiesel.com/rdp-p...xoC1p4QAvD_BwE
https://www.riffraffdiesel.com/gtp38...ild-kit-99-03/
https://www.riffraffdiesel.com/garre...haft-assembly/
https://www.riffraffdiesel.com/compl...oot-kit-99-03/
https://www.riffraffdiesel.com/inter...it-7-3l-99-03/
 
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2020 | 07:44 AM
  #55  
FordTruckNoob's Avatar
FordTruckNoob
FTE Chapter Leader
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 13,077
Likes: 4,692
From: Henderson, NV
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Listor
Won't i need to take the turbo apart to find damage if there is no play in the shaft?
Yes, but why do you think there's damage if it is working okay?
 
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2020 | 07:55 AM
  #56  
Listor's Avatar
Listor
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,613
Likes: 106
From: Albuquerque
Honestly Besides the oil this thing is burning, I am just trying to find out why and whats broken, that's why i am talking to you guys

wrong clamps on the plenum boot, damaged turbo blades
would suggest some rebuilding is needed
 
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2020 | 08:00 AM
  #57  
FordTruckNoob's Avatar
FordTruckNoob
FTE Chapter Leader
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 13,077
Likes: 4,692
From: Henderson, NV
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Listor
Honestly Besides the oil this thing is burning, I am just trying to find out why and whats broken, that's why i am talking to you guys
How do you know the turbo burning oil? Is that picture of the turbo yours? How did the blades get damaged if there's no play?
 
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2020 | 08:16 AM
  #58  
Listor's Avatar
Listor
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,613
Likes: 106
From: Albuquerque
That's what i am investigating, It was suggested that i look at the turbo, so i did and yes that is my turbo, No idea what they did to this truck before i got it LOL

I will pull the up pipes tonight to see if they are full of oil, if not then i will need to look elsewhere for the problem, BUT this will need to be dealt with as well
 
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2020 | 08:30 AM
  #59  
FordTruckNoob's Avatar
FordTruckNoob
FTE Chapter Leader
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 13,077
Likes: 4,692
From: Henderson, NV
Club FTE Gold Member
Ok I just reread the entire thread and see how you arrived at this conclusion. The lack of play in the turbo's shaft is puzzling but that chewed up compressor wheel will need replacing. Might as well rebuild the turbo at this point. Was the intake tubing oily from CCV gasses? If not, the oily plenums indicate blown cold side turbo seals to me. Any oil dripping out the exhaust?
 
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2020 | 08:51 AM
  #60  
Walleye Hunter's Avatar
Walleye Hunter
Hotshot
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 10,750
Likes: 1,065
From: Douglassville, PA
Yes, that CCV lets some oil into the intake and it is normal. I know, it's a bit concerning the first time you notice it.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:22 PM.

story-0
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-2
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

Slideshow: Ranking the 5 things owners love about their Super Duty and 5 things they don't

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:36:49


VIEW MORE
story-8
Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

Slideshow: Ranking all 12 Ford truck engines available in 2026.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 13:32:20


VIEW MORE
story-9
The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

Slideshow: The best Ford F-150 deal for every trim level (XL through Raptor)

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-21 15:59:01


VIEW MORE