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Old Mar 28, 2020 | 12:19 PM
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Bought these 5/8" stainless shackles from Amazon. Marine grade 316SS, so they wont rust. $24 each.






what hitch is that and lock pins?
 
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Old Mar 28, 2020 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jollyrogr
what hitch is that and lock pins?
it is a bulletproof hitch i believe, same one i am running. One of the few that matched the trucks capabilities and was completely adjustable. Cant comment on the lock pins. Cj
 
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Old Mar 28, 2020 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jollyrogr
what hitch is that and lock pins?
Originally Posted by CJONE
it is a bulletproof hitch i believe, same one i am running. One of the few that matched the trucks capabilities and was completely adjustable. Cant comment on the lock pins. Cj
it’s a bullet proof hitch and the locking pins came from them also
 
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Old Mar 30, 2020 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Frank79
it’s a bullet proof hitch and the locking pins came from them also
mine is in a little rougher shape than yours, they sure look purty when new! Still all in all it has been holding up great. Cj
 
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Old Mar 30, 2020 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by CJONE
mine is in a little rougher shape than yours, they sure look purty when new! Still all in all it has been holding up great. Cj
mine is only a few months old lol. I do get a lot of compliments on it for some reason. Guess some folks never seen a real hitch
 
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Old Mar 30, 2020 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Pet
I dont think thats how you want it to work. Well that may be how you want it to work, but I know its not how the DOT wants it to work.
It is 100% supposed to keep the trailer attached in some way to the tow vehicle so it does not go careening away at speed and hit someone or something.
I actually know (knew) of someone here in my area (a local Dr) who died "because" a trailer brokeaway. I dont remember the exact forensics, that it had no chains or insufficient chains but the trailer broke away, and it crossed the median and impacted his vehicle head on killing the driver.
I tried to search it but I think it was a bit before the internet, the Dr was a friend of my Uncles. I know the trailer puller was prosecuted and civilly sued as well.

Something like this: https://www.mankatofreepress.com/new...d00e2a0f2.html

And this: https://www.witn.com/content/news/Dr...563724141.html

Its 100% supposed to keep it attached to the tow vehicle.

You bring up a interesting point. So I would assume that all of us using shackles, for "ease" of applying the chain hooks could easily be held civilly liable or criminally because we "altered" the truck?
 
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Old Mar 30, 2020 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Pet
I see alot of you using shackles, but isnt anyone concerned that in a failure that the shackles would be needed to do their job the load path on the shackle is 90° to its designed load path?
It doesnt look to me that the shackle can rotate to have the load go through the bell > pin.
It looks like it would be forced to side load.
Now a 5/8 shackle probably has more headroom than might be needed, but I assume this has been discussed?
I've got a 3/4" shackle on mine. I'm thinking the loops on the truck's hitch would let go before the shackle does.
I also use twist lock hooks on my safety chains.


 
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Old Mar 30, 2020 | 09:46 AM
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I have no data to back up that a shackle would fail, just in my work we lift lots of things (both heavy and light) with motors and shackles every day and I know the riggers are super focused on the fact that a shackle should never see side load. Load path only from the bell to the pin, so when I was looking at the photos it made me wonder how the shackle would react if actually called upon since looking at the photos it appears that it would be side loaded.
I'm certainly not saying you shackle guys are wrong (or right), but after 35+ years of seeing shackles get used every day its 2nd nature to look at a shackle and consider the load path.
I have always just hooked my safety chains directly through the open holes in the truck hitch just because I did not want to add any intermediary piece.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2020 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Frank79
mine is only a few months old lol. I do get a lot of compliments on it for some reason. Guess some folks never seen a real hitch
That bulletproof hitch looks awesome. What I like about the B&W hitch though is that you can turn the ***** forward so they're not a knee knocker. I think the B&W is actually a few bucks cheaper as well.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2020 | 11:49 AM
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The guys on here are towing better than 99% of the other people towing on the road. It troubles me to see the death trap rigs that people use. And apparently at night the only thing necessary to tow anything is a piece of rope.

On a horribly rough interstate in NY we saw an old couple towing a camping trailer with an SUV. There was an unavoidable hole in a one lane bottleneck before a bridge. The trailer flew up, came unhooked and followed them until they cleared the then one lane bridge then it spun out of control, crossed the median, came back, and was stopped by concrete barrier blocks. Only the trailer was damaged, thankfully.

Many years ago, my dad went about 3 states away to get an antique car. When he arrived home, I was looking at the car and noticed that the nut was missing on the trailer ball. My dad developed very temporary retroactive nervousness. Positive tongue pressure is important!

I have quite a bit of experience towing boat and equipment trailers, using tractors and winches and trucks with cables, shackles, and other rigging in tree farming/forestry work and my wildlife habitat improvement business, and being extremely safe. Usually I stay within about half of the working load, not the rated load. I inspect gear and don’t take foolish chances. I use a lot of redundancy to ensure safety. 90% of the time I work alone, so my safety protects me and everyone else in the vicinity.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2020 | 04:00 PM
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Hammerlock coupling link Made of grade 100 alloy steel Painted finish 1/2" Trade size 15000 lbs Working load limit
 
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Old Mar 31, 2020 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 06KingRanch

Hammerlock coupling link Made of grade 100 alloy steel Painted finish 1/2" Trade size 15000 lbs Working load limit
I like the look of thse as it appears that it would allow the link to rotate and have any loads not pull sideways on it.

For the shackle users - Will the shackle fit the other way around with the Bell through the truck and the pin to the trailer?
Would that allow the shackle to rotate so that any load would pull in line from the bell - pin?
 
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Old Mar 31, 2020 | 11:57 AM
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Yes if those come apart...........you won't be around to worry about it
 
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Old Mar 31, 2020 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Pet
For the shackle users - Will the shackle fit the other way around with the Bell through the truck and the pin to the trailer?
Would that allow the shackle to rotate so that any load would pull in line from the bell - pin?
You could run it with the pin on the truck side and the loop toward the trailer like this. It might be difficult to hook around the pin unless you have some massive hooks coming from the trailer.


 
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Old Mar 31, 2020 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Poncho450
I've got a 3/4" shackle on mine. I'm thinking the loops on the truck's hitch would let go before the shackle does.
I also use twist lock hooks on my safety chains.

This is what I use and they work great! I did not like the idea of Hammerlocks or D-rings banging around when not in use.
 
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