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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Kramercd
The pink with double green labelled "resistor do not cut" is under the hood, coming from the main bundle out of the firewall on the left side. Mine looked brown, it being dark out didn't help, I had to clean it up to see the color and that's when I noticed the writing. It's not very long, I'll measure tomorrow. That part of my harness was wrapped up pretty good. It'll likely be in the thickest portion because of the bulky factory splice.
Thanks, the resistor wire is suppose to be 49 inches long between the thick round splices. Here is a photo of the engine side splice.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post17690723
I thought you had it all unwrapped. It's just been one of those unsolved mysteries on this forum.
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 09:09 PM
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Now just a cotton-pickin minute...

You are saying the TFI harness on an 86 TFI has the same connectors as an 85 DS harness?
The TFI ignition was used only on certain engines (6-banger & 302 V8) but the wiring harness contained wiring for both the DS2 & TFI systems, allowing one harness for all trucks built on the production line.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 09:30 PM
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No Spark troubleshooting info:

The round coil and the square coil use a different coil wire as the coil end is different. Most new wire kits have both in the box to cover more truck years. Make sure the coil wire fits correctly. I use my wife as a spark tester, she screams if there is a spark. If you are single you can buy one for under $10.

Take a voltage measurement, KEY ON, input and output of the ballast resistor. You are looking for a voltage drop across it, say 6 volts or so.
This voltage drop will verify the following:
That the DS2 box is power ON and has a good ground
The coil primary has current flow and that the primary winding are good
That the primary Ignition has a good ground
The amps draw is in the normal range, to get a hot spark

Good luck, Jim
 
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by KULTULZ
Now just a cotton-pickin minute...

You are saying the TFI harness on an 86 TFI has the same connectors as an 85 DS harness?.
Here is a 1986 diagram for a truck equipped with a duraspark II ignition system. It has a label on the upper right corner, this would have been for I believe a Canada built 300 six, a 351w Ho and a 460 engine. Look at the wiring coming out of the ignition switch, the resistor, the connector numbers c321 and c325.



Below is the diagram for a 5.0, 302 fuel injected engine in 1986. You can see it still has the resistor in the wiring, but it's not being used. It still has the same c321 and c325, but they are being used differently. But they are being fed the same voltages that they are in the duraspark II diagram. They are the same connectors between the two ignitions, the connector c321 is the one that is attached to the duraspark II module, it is the same connector as the one used in the fuel injection wiring.

 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 02:58 AM
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We are losing something in the translation here. Let's wait until he reads the schematics he drew and PAINLESS.

Good Point on DIST drive gear. I think he said he bought an 1984 EXCHANGE.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 06:25 AM
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First of all I’m sorry I haven’t gotten back but I had one visitor after the next yesterday —Maybe I’m missing something but I looked at the schematic I drew and the painless schematic, I have the brown wire going from positive coil to the “I” on the relay and the other red wire coming off positive coil to one side of the ballast -is that not correct?
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dallasf150
First of all I’m sorry I haven’t gotten back but I had one visitor after the next yesterday —Maybe I’m missing something but I looked at the schematic I drew and the painless schematic, I have the brown wire going from positive coil to the “I” on the relay and the other red wire coming off positive coil to one side of the ballast -is that not correct?
That is correct. What is feeding the ballast on the other side?
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 09:40 AM
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The blue/white from the (keyed) from the ignition to the ballast then back to the red on module
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 10:12 AM
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Have you checked for power on those wires with the key on?
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 02:04 PM
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Yes the blue/white wire works with the key on, off with the key off
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 02:12 PM
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What coil are you using and could you pop the cap off the distributor and take a picture of the internals?
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 02:13 PM
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If the bl/wh wire is hot with just the key turned on should I be getting juice at the coil wire with the test light? I’m getting it at the coil + but not in the opening with the wire removed
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 02:16 PM
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I’m still at work at the moment but I will as soon as I get home-the coil is a SPEC brand
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 02:21 PM
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If the bl/wh wire is hot with just the key turned on should I be getting juice at the coil wire with the test light? I’m getting it at the coil + but not in the opening with the wire removed
You mean where the wire to the cap goes? Not sure I'd put a tester on that, not sure what the voltages values are but it's enough to smoke a DVOM. I'm not quite sure how the system works. I assume the coil - has a lot to do with it.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 04:58 PM
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Here’s the distributor internals but I don’t think the coils putting out...
 
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