5 Star's 2020 7.3L SD Power and More ...
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Folks, all the Ford engineers said, "It will be a nice increase across the board". People get caught up with terms and seem to find any reason to pick on gas engines. I'm coming from a diesel, yes it was a great towing truck. But the fact is, until diesels were turbocharged they just slowly chugged along. So don't worry what diesel folks say, who want to downgrade anything that's not diesel. Both gas and diesel have places in this world.
I think the numbers the 7.3 put down are respectable. Dyno's are only used for reference, if you follow the Engine Masters, many of the competitors said there engine made more power at home on there dyno.
This thread should not be diesels vs gas.
I think the numbers the 7.3 put down are respectable. Dyno's are only used for reference, if you follow the Engine Masters, many of the competitors said there engine made more power at home on there dyno.
This thread should not be diesels vs gas.
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Everyone seems to be hung up on peak numbers. Looking at torque in the 2000-4000 rpm range where I would normally be driving it, the 7.3 has lots more torque than the 6.2. That’s what you need when hauling and towing. No, it doesn’t have diesel level torque. But then it’s $9000 less too.
The 7.3 fit what I needed with no more worrying about water in fuel, draining the DFCM monthly and expensive oil changes.
#68
The specs look good on the new engine. I like my torque down low, same with HP. I don't care how much HP the engine makes from 4500 and up, I won't use that anyway. it's what an engine makes down where people use it on a regular basis.
Look at the old Dodge V-10. Great torque and good HP from nothing more than a fuel injected engine. Can you imagine what this engine could do with today's technology of variable valve timing, better individual port injection, better electronics, 8 or 10 speed transmission, ect.
I really like my old V-10. It's a super smooth work horse. The 4 speed transmission hurts it with a 3.55 rear. And the 4.10 leaves no room on the top end on the interstate.
It's good to see Ford get back to basics with a proven design engine, as long as they can pull it off and not have lots of glitches. I hope they did it right from the start. Time will tell, as with any new design.
Dodge Ram V-10 Specs:
Engine Type 488 cid 90' V-10 OHV
Bore & Stroke 4.00 x 3.88 in. (101.6 x 98.6 mm.)
Displacement 488 cu.in. (8.0 L)
Compression Ratio 8.4 :1
Horsepower 310 hp @ 4100 rpm
Torque 450 ft. lbs. (617 N.m) @ 2400 rpm
Cylinder Block Cast Iron
Crankshaft Nodular Cast Iron
Cylinder Head Cast Iron
Combustion Cambers Wedge - High Swirl
Camshaft Nodular Cast Iron
Pistons Cast Aluminum Alloy
Connecting Rods Forged Steel
Look at the old Dodge V-10. Great torque and good HP from nothing more than a fuel injected engine. Can you imagine what this engine could do with today's technology of variable valve timing, better individual port injection, better electronics, 8 or 10 speed transmission, ect.
I really like my old V-10. It's a super smooth work horse. The 4 speed transmission hurts it with a 3.55 rear. And the 4.10 leaves no room on the top end on the interstate.
It's good to see Ford get back to basics with a proven design engine, as long as they can pull it off and not have lots of glitches. I hope they did it right from the start. Time will tell, as with any new design.
Dodge Ram V-10 Specs:
Engine Type 488 cid 90' V-10 OHV
Bore & Stroke 4.00 x 3.88 in. (101.6 x 98.6 mm.)
Displacement 488 cu.in. (8.0 L)
Compression Ratio 8.4 :1
Horsepower 310 hp @ 4100 rpm
Torque 450 ft. lbs. (617 N.m) @ 2400 rpm
Cylinder Block Cast Iron
Crankshaft Nodular Cast Iron
Cylinder Head Cast Iron
Combustion Cambers Wedge - High Swirl
Camshaft Nodular Cast Iron
Pistons Cast Aluminum Alloy
Connecting Rods Forged Steel
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This gas engine is putting down #’s the diesels were just a few years ago on cheap 87 octane. Impressive in my book. Simple design, less maintenance & impressive tow ratings. Yes the diesel ratings are higher & very impressive but I wouldn’t take the diesel if it was given to me. Been there, done that.
#71
I agree. I think the 7.3 is disappointing. It looks to have some advantage at 2,000 RPM but at 2,300 and up the 6.2 is only about 50 lbs of torque less. I won't be rushing to replace my 6.2. And 7.3 with 3.55's versus a 6.2 with 4.30's might be an interesting comparison.
#72
I would never compare the 7.3 to a modern diesel. No comparison but the 7.3 should be a better fit for my needs. If I could have a 12 valve Cummins with this 10 speed trans I would go diesel again.
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I have the 10 speed in my F-150 & very happy with it. I do have the Dodge 8 speeds in my Challengers & I find the Ford 10 speeds a little more refined. The skip shift in the 10 speed always has the engine in the meat of the power band. Some voodoo stuff going on there. Either would be great with a 12v though.
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