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Old 12-24-2019, 10:24 AM
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My last higher torque gas engine was the ford V10 putting out 420 ft lbs. That thing could pull quite a bit of weight all things considered and that was a 2000 model. The 7.3 is putting almost that same amount to the rear wheels - nothing to sneeze at in my book.
 
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Old 12-24-2019, 10:32 AM
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Im also betting the 10spd. is gonna play a major part in its advantage over the 6.2 or the gm 6.6.
 
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Old 12-24-2019, 10:36 AM
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Im also betting the 10spd. is gonna play a major part in its advantage over the 6.2 or the gm 6.6.
Just keep in mind the 10 speed will be available with the 6.2 350’s.
 
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Old 12-24-2019, 10:37 AM
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Folks, all the Ford engineers said, "It will be a nice increase across the board". People get caught up with terms and seem to find any reason to pick on gas engines. I'm coming from a diesel, yes it was a great towing truck. But the fact is, until diesels were turbocharged they just slowly chugged along. So don't worry what diesel folks say, who want to downgrade anything that's not diesel. Both gas and diesel have places in this world.
I think the numbers the 7.3 put down are respectable. Dyno's are only used for reference, if you follow the Engine Masters, many of the competitors said there engine made more power at home on there dyno.
This thread should not be diesels vs gas.
 
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Old 12-24-2019, 10:49 AM
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Looks like a heck of an engine to throw a supercharger on!!
 
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Old 12-24-2019, 10:55 AM
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I get the love for the 6.2. It's been solid.
But me personally, I'll take the simple nature of a big cube pushrod engine all day. We will see what a tune gives it. No it isn't a diesel but it will definitely be a good gas option. I personally think they will phase out the 6.2 now.
 
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Old 12-24-2019, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Drothgeb
Everyone seems to be hung up on peak numbers. Looking at torque in the 2000-4000 rpm range where I would normally be driving it, the 7.3 has lots more torque than the 6.2. That’s what you need when hauling and towing. No, it doesn’t have diesel level torque. But then it’s $9000 less too.
Agreed, I sold my Fifth Wheel Toy Hauler and no longer needed the grunt of the diesel. Now all I have is a 7 x 12 dump trailer that I gross out at about 12 to 13K normal use.
The 7.3 fit what I needed with no more worrying about water in fuel, draining the DFCM monthly and expensive oil changes.
 
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Old 12-24-2019, 12:18 PM
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The specs look good on the new engine. I like my torque down low, same with HP. I don't care how much HP the engine makes from 4500 and up, I won't use that anyway. it's what an engine makes down where people use it on a regular basis.

Look at the old Dodge V-10. Great torque and good HP from nothing more than a fuel injected engine. Can you imagine what this engine could do with today's technology of variable valve timing, better individual port injection, better electronics, 8 or 10 speed transmission, ect.

I really like my old V-10. It's a super smooth work horse. The 4 speed transmission hurts it with a 3.55 rear. And the 4.10 leaves no room on the top end on the interstate.

It's good to see Ford get back to basics with a proven design engine, as long as they can pull it off and not have lots of glitches. I hope they did it right from the start. Time will tell, as with any new design.

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Engine Type 488 cid 90' V-10 OHV
Bore & Stroke 4.00 x 3.88 in. (101.6 x 98.6 mm.)
Displacement 488 cu.in. (8.0 L)
Compression Ratio 8.4 :1
Horsepower 310 hp @ 4100 rpm
Torque 450 ft. lbs. (617 N.m) @ 2400 rpm
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Crankshaft Nodular Cast Iron
Cylinder Head Cast Iron
Combustion Cambers Wedge - High Swirl
Camshaft Nodular Cast Iron
Pistons Cast Aluminum Alloy
Connecting Rods Forged Steel
 
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Old 12-24-2019, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Under-Pressure
This gas engine is putting down #’s the diesels were just a few years ago on cheap 87 octane. Impressive in my book. Simple design, less maintenance & impressive tow ratings. Yes the diesel ratings are higher & very impressive but I wouldn’t take the diesel if it was given to me. Been there, done that.
Today, it's less than half the torque at twice the RPM. Great choice for most, but don't compare it to the Diesel. .
 
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Less than 50 lb-ft difference across that range. I wouldn’t call that “lots more”.
I agree. I think the 7.3 is disappointing. It looks to have some advantage at 2,000 RPM but at 2,300 and up the 6.2 is only about 50 lbs of torque less. I won't be rushing to replace my 6.2. And 7.3 with 3.55's versus a 6.2 with 4.30's might be an interesting comparison.
 
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Old 12-24-2019, 01:32 PM
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Today, it's less than half the torque at twice the RPM. Great choice for most, but don't compare it to the Diesel. .
I would never compare the 7.3 to a modern diesel. No comparison but the 7.3 should be a better fit for my needs. If I could have a 12 valve Cummins with this 10 speed trans I would go diesel again.
 
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I would never compare the 7.3 to a modern diesel. No comparison but the 7.3 should be a better fit for my needs. If I could have a 12 valve Cummins with this 10 speed trans I would go diesel again.
make it an 8 speed, hope that it’s matter of when rather than if.
 
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Old 12-24-2019, 02:21 PM
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make it an 8 speed, hope that it’s matter of when rather than if.
I have the 10 speed in my F-150 & very happy with it. I do have the Dodge 8 speeds in my Challengers & I find the Ford 10 speeds a little more refined. The skip shift in the 10 speed always has the engine in the meat of the power band. Some voodoo stuff going on there. Either would be great with a 12v though.
 
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Old 12-24-2019, 02:57 PM
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The 7.3 numbers aren't very good in my opinion, glad I picked up a 19 6.7 at discount versus waiting for the 7.3. No reason to trade off the 2015 6.2 Farm truck either with those numbers.
 


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