Well, the new mill was dropped in over one day in late April. I think the clicker was at about 27k. Today, I’m almost at 40k with the new mill. Not really driving as much lately, but that should change soon.
Anyway, after driving this one different than the last one, I pulled the dipstick out at 4,000 miles on the change, and find this one is pushing oil, too. It isn’t the TSB replacement rate of 1 quart in 3,000 miles, but 1 quart in 4,000. I figured I’d go to 5,000 mile oil change intervals, but at this rate of oil burn, I’m thinking of dropping it back down to 3,500. Maybe it makes no sense because 1 quart low in almost 9 can’t really mean much if I’m not driving high RPM’s or off-roading. Still, I can’t help but wonder what all this oil is doing to the emissions system and such?
Ive lost my faith in the 5.0L, and although it sounds great with the Corsa Extreme exhaust, I’ll never own another one. I really wonder if I got another 2018 mill, or the actual “new and improved” 2019.

 

Did you see this rumored 5.0L replacement?

https://leftlanenews.com/ford/ford-f...xt-generation/

 

I'd bet the rate of usage slows, since you've got very few miles on the engine. I wouldn't throw in the towel just yet.
Did you change the oil and/or at least check the level after the last change to verify where the oil was on the stick at that point? What brand of oil was used?

 

Thats the first I’ve seen of that rumor in an article dated this year (2019). Most of those were posted several years back.

The new engine that came out last year is the current, so called Coyote. It s a completely different engine than the previous Coyote. Except for one thing that both have in common, they are still built on the old Triton/Modular engine design. Although they have no parts in common, they do use that old architecture.

 

A quick Google search shows that the 4.8 rumors are circulating again in the last few days. It will be interesting to see if there are any details released from Ford on this.

iIf the rumors are true, Ford would have abandoned the second gen Coyote in near record time. The shortest run I’ve seen for an engine in a Ford truck (as in no further use if the engine in any other vehicle) was the 6.4 Power Stroke at 3 model years.

Ford tried a 3.8 V6 for a short time in F100s in ‘82-‘83, but that engine saw use in many other cars and vans over the years.

 

Well, this new engine possibly coming really doesn’t affect me. Not like it’ll be dropped in my truck anymore than a new 3.5L EcoBoost. I’m sure Ford won’t do anything for me now since I’m not meeting the 1 quart per 3,000 miles. By the time anything changes, I’ll be out of warranty. The warranty on the new mill I have now ends at 60k like the original mill. No starting over at 27k, ending at 86k. I’m pretty much saddled to this rig for a few years, so I can complain all I want, and it’ll do me no good. The last change seemed to use less, so well see if consumption is progressing or slowing down.

 

I guess you could beat Ford at their game and buy an extended warranty.

 

I started a new thread to discuss the 4.8 here. Don’t want to side track this thread.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...or-thread.html

 

I may very well consider this. My problem is at 40k miles a year average, sometimes more, the cost gets exorbitant quickly. I’ll run out of factory warranty at less than two years, and then trying to keep it another four years puts me at 250k. Any warranty for 150k past the factory first 60k will be outrageous.

 

My advice: keep tracking the consumption.

If it gets better, problem solved.

If it stays the same, you're already in that boat and have a plan.

If it gets worse, you can go complain with numbers in-hand.

You have 20,000 miles left to figure it out, and the first one had the issue by then.

I'm curious: is the replacement engine new or a rebuilt?

 

It is a new long block, not rebuild... so I was told. 🤔

 

Or you could just beat Ford at heir own game and get a truck with longer factory warranty such as the Nissan Titan.

Not here to stir the pot or suggest that people start jumping ship but, how much BS should a very loyal customer have to take?

I nearly jumped because of a 1995 Thunderbird. The car was cursed from day one and we put 60,000 painful miles on her before throwing in the towel and switching to a 1999 Taurus wagon. Turned out to be a great decision and a huge stress reliever.

These trucks are not worth the money or the headache. None of them are from any truck builder, sorry guys, we all paid too much.

In the words of my very long time service adviser who tried to talk me out of getting a 3.5L in my 2011 truck:

2011: "the 3.5L is going to be nothing but a money pit and you'd be better off getting a V-8".

2019: I had my truck in for the transmission recall and fluid change, coolant change; "Tim, I severely mis-spoke about the two engines back when you got your truck. It would seem as though the tables have turned and the 3.5L has been the better engine choice."

I'm so dang glad that I steered my daughter into a 3.5L. She wanted the 5.0L because it sounded great. Typical youngster way of thinking.

Anyway, I sincerely hope that Ford gets this right and everyone is made whole in some fashion.

 

Thanks for the advice, Tseekins. I had a 3.5L in 2016. Loved it. I only bought the 5.0L this time because.... you guessed it... longevity. Everyone touted how the 5.0L would go a million miles and was tried and true. I had NO idea it was a new mill in 2018. I’ve had plenty of quirks with this truck since I bought it a year ago. Then, you may recall the high pressure fuel pump problem with the brand new engine that almost left me stranded.
I don’t know what to do at this point except keep thinking for another 20,000 miles. Ford is just my favorite. I like their look, style, feel, etc. I don’t like other brands. Call it brand loyal, call it blind, call me stupid. I lately have considered just dumping the truck for a good commuter car while I figure things out, but I need a truck.
I've recently dumped quite a bit of cash into my sons 2011 FX4, and I was hoping to make my 2018 his in a couple years. I just don’t want either of us to be faced with a money pit, because I really think this plasma-coated 5.0L is going to go down as a debacle, and we’ll see it tossed by 2021. I can only see it getting worse with issues over time. It can’t be bored or modified, and really, who’d want to touch it to re-build a crap blocked motor? I’m concerned the word will get out in a few years if I pass the truck along to my son, and the truck value will tank. I think it may be gone by warranty regardless. If an extended warranty to 250k is equitable, maybe I’ll consider it, but I suspect that’ll cost me more than it’s worth... especially for a truck who’s value at 250k could be in the pits from this short-run motor.

 

With the first mill, I tracked it and recorded it in a spreadsheet and kept numbered photos with dates. The dealer said it was normal for 28,000 miles. I even became religious with the “fifteen minute” drain-down time spec’d By Ford before reading the dipstick. Then the TSB was issued. Even though I had 25,000 miles of records proving consumption , I had to go another 3k with a replacement PVC to prove it wasn’t the issue.
Mill was changed. Every change between 3,500 and 4,000 miles on the oil, has been 3/4 of a quart down. This time, it’s a bit more, so I can only guess it’s not improving.

 

If it was mine, I’d tree it now because it’ll never be worth more. I din’t know what your situation is on it though.