That $10,000 would buy you 1800 qts of oil, or approx $350 in oil for 100,000 miles of driving based on your consumption number.

 

I don’t want a headache. Ford screwed this one up. Plasma coating the engine cylinders in an aluminum block engine, instead of a sleeve, really? So you choose to marginally increase horsepower over durability, someone needs to be fired. The Ram beats the F150 in just about every way , read any comparison by these motor magazines and gurus and almost all choose the Ram over the Ford. Didn’t want to trade it in, took the loss, but I am on the road all the time in some crazy remote areas and I need a vehicle that I am not having to replace the engine every 11,000 miles. Ignorance is bliss, Chrysler did there homework and upped its game.

 

That $10,000 would buy you 1800 qts of oil, or approx $350 in oil for 100,000 miles of driving based on your consumption number.

Now if you're disgusted with Ford using their customer base as a beta test and delivering a lousy product to save a couple $$$ then I understand.

 

I’ll push my Ford before driving a Ram. They look good, and feel great out of the box, but in the construction industry around here, they don’t cut it long term.
I noted before that I’ve had over two dozen Fords. This is my first problem child, and it’s all engine. I love the truck. I don’t like the engine. If I can wrap my head around the oil being burned is NOT damaging something or prematurely killing my catalytic converters, I’ll likely run it and give it to my son. If not, it’ll be gone early 2020 when I approach warranty.

 

It’s very easy to say the newest truck on the market is better than a truck that’s pushing 5 years old.

Who ever said or where have you read that one will have to replace the 5.0 engine in the F150 every 11,000 miles.

I hope you enjoy your new RAM but you sound like you’re trying to convince yourself that you made a good decision with your purchase of a RAM.

In closing, the only homework Chrysler did and the only game they upped with the new RAM is the interior and a refreshed exterior........nothing more and nothing less.

Have a great day.

 

Yeah, there might be a bunch of them running around four quarts low with no idea.

Some of the other manufacturers have had consumption issues over the last decade or so. I've decided with any car purchase going forward I'll get in writing what "normal consumption" is before signing, just to get myself a leg up on this type of issue.

 

It wouldn't surprise me. Not bashing on Ford in particular, other manufacturers have this issue too. Just it would be easier once you're so deep in production etc. to have the customer buy a few extra quarts at every oil change than to have the same customer check their oil regularly and top it off as needed.

 

About 10 years ago we had a small gathering of a few of us from FTE in Ohio. One of the guys was younger, and had a new-to-him V10-powered F250. As we are poking around under the hood, one of the guys pulled his dipstick and saw nothing on it. He was about 3 quarts low, and the engine ran just fine which meant the pump was not sucking air.

If that V-10 can run on 3 quarts of oil, it's unlikely someone would run an oil burning 5.0l dry. Not that that makes the OP feel any better, but it's probably not the engine killing hazard that some think it is.

Losing $10,000 on a trade because a truck is burning oil under warranty seems ridiculous to me, but we often make vehicle decisions emotionally rather than logically. I think the Ram is a nicer truck, and nearly bought one myself a few months back. But I wouldn't say they do everything better… Their Hemi V-8 is among the thirstiest options out there right now, so I wouldn't guess his fuel bill is improved. I took a chance on an FCA product with my 2017 Pacifica, and more trouble in the following year than virtually anything else I've owned. Not suggesting the Ram will be the same, but I have more confidence in Ford overall. Perhaps not the 5.0l engine, though.

 

But, but, but how many loyal Ford owners jumped ship over the 5.4L 3V, the 6.0L diesel and the 6.4L? Ford has squandered more loyalty than Ram ever had, what a shame.

 

That's certainly true, and "ridiculous" is probably too strong of a word. I know how powerful the drive is to get rid of something your pissed off at.

Not sure about squandered loyalty, there are plenty of disaffected Ram owners out there.

 

Funny you mention these. I’ve had several of each, running high mileage in a year on all of them, and none gave me issues prior to 100k when they were sent out to pasture. For that reason alone, I’m not bailing, but will
weigh my options this 5.0L.

 

I just started thinking about the line from Forrest Gump: "life is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get." I'm old enough now to have had about 10 different vehicles. None of them was a problem child except for one 1989 Jeep Cherokee. It had this intermittent starting problem that we never got sorted until the last month we owned it. It was a "little thing", but it was a major bummer whenever it happened. It just wouldn't start (turned over, but no spark). So my one problem vehicle was a Mopar product.

BTW - I bought a 1985 Nissan King cab from the original owner around 1998. It had 180,000 on it when we bought it (for around $7.95). We drove it around (light usage), and sold it to our brother-in-law for $1 around 2004 or 5. He still drives it around, and I have no idea how many miles he has on it now, but it's gotta be up there (34 years and counting).

 

Toyota has the reputation, but Nissans are as tough as nails too.

 

Can't argue that Tom but, when you've owned the top sales trophy for decades, why help the competition inch any closer.

Ford builds the best truck hands down and fortunately for them, in the F-150 stable there are enough good engine choices so that if one to become disinterested in their current F-150, there are plenty of other options to move into without jumping ship.

Personally, I love the looks of the new GMC and the Ram, I could be interested if I were upset at Ford.

 

Not bashing anyone but a quart of oil in 3000 miles is nothing, I don't understand why everyone is crying about it calling the 5.0 a piece of junk.
My brother bought a new 4 cylinder Ranger in 88, used a quart every 1200 miles, Ford said they would replace the engine when consumption dropped to a quart in 800 miles, at 150,000 miles it was using a quart in 1500 miles.
Pretty much every vehicle I've ever owned has used a quart in 3-4000 miles, some where a lot worse.
I've owned several Fords, a few Mopars, some GM's, Toyota's, Nissan and a VW, I can't name a single one that didn't use at lease 1 qrt in 4000 miles and most where in the 2500-3000 mile range.
Bought our present 18 F-150 with 5.0 with 15,000 miles on the clock, now has 22,000 miles, according to records oil had been changed at 6000 intervals so at 18000 I took it to Ford for service, had checked and oil level was ok at 17k miles. After reading this thread some I decide I'd better check the oil in mine, OMG had only driven it 2k miles and it was 3 qrts low, toped it off and 2k miles later it's still full.
Beginning to think the dealer didn't put in the full 8 arts, I'll be taking it back at 24k miles and will be checking the oil level before it leaves the lot.
If this truck uses a qrt every 2-3k miles I'll call it normal and keep driving, We love our truck and won't be freaking out if it uses a little bit of oil, everything we've owned before has, it's not a big deal and for sure won't be running to trade it off and take a big $$$ hit just because it uses a little oil.

This is on a different level but back in the 70's when I first started driving big rigs the first truck I learned to drive had a 8V71 Detroit, it got 4 miles per gallon and used/leaked a GALLON of oil every 1000 miles, this was considered normal for that engine, my next truck had a V8 Cummins and it only used a gallon of oil in 4000 miles, I though something was wrong with it.