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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 12:13 PM
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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BBslider001
I am with ya Mark...all the way...but this guy NAILED it. Maybe we hire him for auto rebuilds??
I'm with you on that one. A new guy to go to.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 02:14 PM
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Would anyone here know IF the later ('08) Torqueshift filter and pan will fit the 4R100 trans?
 
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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ebbnflow
Finally got a chance to put on some miles and really warm up the trans. It takes way longer to get her up to temp than it used to. After a 30 mile drive, she finally got above 180, so I know I finally got flow through the 6.0 cooler. She drives and shifts great. I'm gonna baby her for a while to slowly break the new trans in. Thanks for all the support and following along the way! I'm going to call this thread wrapped up. I hope this gives others the confidence to tackle this project on your own. Automatic transmissions are no longer a mystery to me and I hope I de-mystified them a little bit for you too. I was seriously intimidated by this project before it started, but now I am glad I did it. If anyone is going to do this in the future, please feel free to post here or PM me and I'll do my best to answer.
Just drive it. Don't worry about break in because its not needed. Don't be afraid to slam the go pedal down hard once in a while. It will not hurt a thing.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 07:07 PM
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Would anyone here know IF the later ('08) Torqueshift filter and pan will fit the 4R100 trans?
Yes, I know. No, it won't.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 05:50 PM
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Even though your work is done, I'm subscribing as I have a 4R100 in a V10 4WD Excursion to rebuild myself, and will read through this thread when I have the time to devote. It popped up VIA google search when I was looking for a bushing driver tool.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 08:45 PM
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Subscribing for the same reason! ^^^^^^^


Nice work!
 
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 08:51 PM
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​​​​​​​Carnage from the 01 I bought two months ago and finally tore into yesterday.

Why I got it so cheap....it wouldn't move.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cleatus12r



​​​​​​​Carnage from the 01 I bought two months ago and finally tore into yesterday.

Why I got it so cheap....it wouldn't move.
That's some serious Carnage. What parts are those? I can't even tell.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ebbnflow
Thanks for all the positivity. I didn't get much done so far today. I have no real timeline. I just want to make sure it gets done the right way. When I find the time, I'll edit my original post to add some specifics on my parts choices.

So far the biggest challenge for me was getting that damn roll pin for the gear selector rod out of the trans. Jimmy at the transmissionbench says this is the hardest part of the entire rebuild and I hope he is right.

I was looking over some of the parts last night and discovered some wear marks on the coast clutch drum. I've been scouring the internet for a replacement and have only had luck finding used parts that have these same looking wear marks. Maybe I'm overreacting. What do you all think?


Coast clutch drum wear marks.

I saw that you had wear marks on your coast clutch drum behind the pump. I don't remember reading if you did anything corrective, Did you just re-install the drum, or resurface it? In a recently acquired Excursion of mine, it was said to have no reverse, a dealer did a partial disassembly, quoted the rebuild or reman replacement, then put all the parts in the rear of the vehicle at the cust request. It was never fixed. In looking over the parts I see that the same drum bears the same wear marks and then some. I'm still in the discovery stage and setting up a dedicated workspace in the garage to asses the condition of all the parts. Seems the drum is no longer avail new, but there are options for reman, and used. To make it simple for me I was just going to purchase the Deluxe Super kit from Jimmy at T/B .com. I figure if I'm using his videos, I'll support him via parts purchase from his site. With that said, I'll be looking for the cause of the drum damage, and what ever else may need replacement. My wholesale cost on this unit at the dealer is right at 2,000.00. So for the deluxe kit, torque converter, a few dedicated tools, IE: transmission floor jack adapter, new parts washer etc, and I'll be making the tools he shows as well, I may be pushing 1.000.00, or a little more. I would enjoy doing the work, but I can offer myself no warranty. So it's an unknown weather a self rebuild, or Ford reman will be done.
Can you provide a rough rounded cost for all that you've done, including tools, kits, and misc parts?











 
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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 06:52 AM
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This reminds me of being a motorcycle mechanic 40 years ago. We called that a "Basket Case".
You never knew is all the parts were there or if there were a few lawnmower ones thrown in too.
Don't know what truck mechanics call it.
I brought back fond memoirs.
Thanks, Bob
 
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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobcatbob
This reminds me of being a motorcycle mechanic 40 years ago. We called that a "Basket Case".
You never knew is all the parts were there or if there were a few lawnmower ones thrown in too.
Don't know what truck mechanics call it.
I brought back fond memoirs.
Thanks, Bob
When I was real young, like just learning to read I used to read the classified ads. R/H was one option in cars that really sticks out after all these years and then there was the basket case motorcycles. They were so prevalent that I actually thought it was a Harley model since they were usually Harley basket cases.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ebbnflow
That's some serious Carnage. What parts are those? I can't even tell.
Look at Excursion's top picture.

It's the overdrive planetary on the right side.

$280 in parts, no biggie. I took it apart and made sure there was no metal anywhere and reassembled. The nice thing about a catastrophic failure that instantly renders the vehicle immobile is that metal chunks don't move too far from the point of failure.

I had spare parts and just ordered new ones for the transmission that donated to this cause.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobcatbob
This reminds me of being a motorcycle mechanic 40 years ago. We called that a "Basket Case".
You never knew is all the parts were there or if there were a few lawnmower ones thrown in too.
Don't know what truck mechanics call it.
I brought back fond memoirs.
Thanks, Bob
I think it's a train wreck, after a quick assessment of parts, I think I'll be good. It's not fully dismantled.
There appears to be a missing extension housing bolt. I was able to download the ATSG manual, and on pages 116 & 117 it it gives real size bolt descriptions, quantity, and location.

4R100 ATSG manual
 
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Old Oct 17, 2019 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 01__Excursion
I saw that you had wear marks on your coast clutch drum behind the pump. I don't remember reading if you did anything corrective, Did you just re-install the drum, or resurface it? In a recently acquired Excursion of mine, it was said to have no reverse, a dealer did a partial disassembly, quoted the rebuild or reman replacement, then put all the parts in the rear of the vehicle at the cust request. It was never fixed. In looking over the parts I see that the same drum bears the same wear marks and then some. I'm still in the discovery stage and setting up a dedicated workspace in the garage to asses the condition of all the parts. Seems the drum is no longer avail new, but there are options for reman, and used. To make it simple for me I was just going to purchase the Deluxe Super kit from Jimmy at T/B .com. I figure if I'm using his videos, I'll support him via parts purchase from his site. With that said, I'll be looking for the cause of the drum damage, and what ever else may need replacement. My wholesale cost on this unit at the dealer is right at 2,000.00. So for the deluxe kit, torque converter, a few dedicated tools, IE: transmission floor jack adapter, new parts washer etc, and I'll be making the tools he shows as well, I may be pushing 1.000.00, or a little more. I would enjoy doing the work, but I can offer myself no warranty. So it's an unknown weather a self rebuild, or Ford reman will be done.
Can you provide a rough rounded cost for all that you've done, including tools, kits, and misc parts?










I put my coast clutch drum through the parts washer and reinstalled. Not sure what would cause those knicks in the ridges on yours. Maybe a broken snap ring?

I spent about $2500 all in. I didn't get the TB kit. I pieced it together and bought a lot of extras, the super deluxe kit doesn't include. Good luck with your rebuild! If you follow Jimmy's videos, you'll be successful.
 
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