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Old Nov 24, 2019 | 04:42 PM
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It does look pretty dark. Measuring cup was drained out of the rear tank. Bottle is from the pump. Not sure how much of it could be residual from before I did the injectors. Even when I first pulled the original injectors to do cups the o rings looked fine. I replaced them anyway. Ran them for a while with little to no improvement. Pulled them and inspected them again when I put the new injectors in and they looked good still. Obviously the new injectors had new o rings so I don’t know how that could cause a gallon loss in 400 miles.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2019 | 05:30 PM
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As someone trying to solve only a 1qt. per 1000 mile problem I hope you find a solution.
Your problem has a solution.

Have you thought of preasurizing the high pressure circuit to each bank?
 
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Old Nov 24, 2019 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobcatbob
As someone trying to solve only a 1qt. per 1000 mile problem I hope you find a solution.
Your problem has a solution.

Have you thought of preasurizing the high pressure circuit to each bank?
you mean like doing a leak down test on each oil rail?
 
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Old Nov 24, 2019 | 05:53 PM
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The Superduty forum calls it the Cody test in the Tech area. Injector oring test also.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2019 | 06:06 PM
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Could it be that the Alliant Ford o rings I’m getting are like NOS and dried up from the start, or something more out of the ordinary with one of the heads?
 
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Old Nov 24, 2019 | 06:15 PM
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You will never know till you do the preasure test. This test may find some other unexplained problem.
Good luck.

 
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Old Nov 24, 2019 | 06:39 PM
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It can definitely cause that much loss and more. Ask me how I know. I'd be pulling injectors. That fuel has oil in it big time.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2019 | 06:49 PM
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Yeah.. explains my stellar fuel mileage 🤦🏻‍♂️
 
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Old Nov 25, 2019 | 06:21 PM
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I believe you have done numerous injector swaps with the same problem.
I vote for the Cody test to at least isolate which side and injector is causing this problem.
You sure have a difficult problem on your hands.
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 08:03 AM
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I was able to do the pressure test a couple weekends ago. The rubber tipped air nozzle wasn’t cutting it so I found a fitting to hook the air up direct. Drivers side head passed. Had the fuel pressure spike after having it hooked up on the passenger side for a while. Couldn’t really narrow it down to which injector it was so I pulled the number 7 re-ringed it and torqued it. Hooked the air back up and it was better for a little while then the #5 injector started seeping out the top. Pulled that one to re ring it and noticed some wear in the injector bore. Reinstalled and it was still leaking so I pulled again, added an extra top ring to hold the o-ring down further in the bore and it improved but still leaks. It appears they ran it for a while with a loose injector.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 09:07 AM
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Thats not a fun one to find or go through

Good job on finding that issue.

can you mic the bore to compare the wear?
 
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by knottyrope
Thats not a fun one to find or go through

Good job on finding that issue.

can you mic the bore to compare the wear?
I’m a little embarrassed how long it took to diagnose it but everyone here was a big help. My calipers wouldn’t reach down to where the measurements need to be taken. To do it accurately I think I would need an inside micrometer and I don’t have one. My oil usage seems to be about half of what it was for now and manageable but after coming this far I’d like to fix it right.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 06:04 PM
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I'm wondering, if JB weld in that slit sanded down would work? Sgould give it a try, beats removing the head.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 06:59 PM
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First you should get an ID bore gage to know exactly the dimension of wear or distortion. No guessing on this, just the facts.

JB WELD on this would be questionable.
There could be other hi-tech solutions the brain trust may come up with.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2019 | 09:58 AM
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JB weld help up on my oil pan on my 99 Taco

You will need to remove all oil from area and then rough it up to make sure it sticks
Then have to machine it

Might be easier to replace the head
 
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