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Originally Posted by Oilboy34 View Post
So what we have is 1965 f100 Ranger with buckets in Palamino Crinkle. My strong suspicion is no center console.

There are no windshield sprayers just wipers. Maybe not unusual request for California?

As for color, steering column Navajo Beige, secondary color Wimbleton White, primary color TBD. As for primary, firewall, doors and door jambs and small splotch left on tailgate all look the same so will assume they are primary. Anybody care to guess what color that is?

Are there parts sources that put out good quality reproductions? TA mentioned Carolina Classics. Anywhere else?
On a related note, you can see on last picture posted the white door panels. There is 1 piece of chrome in picture which I'm guessing wraps the white panel. That 1 piece is all we have. How tough is it to find a replacement set?

TA, did see your H81 chart earlier. Anyone know on that chart what the 7 7 24 on right mean? My guess on the 24 is a cardboard/board like material with perforated holes in it as that what's in it and still in pretty good shape.
I have a set of this trim and clips. I think one clip is broken. I couldn't see a way to pm you. PM me if you can if you are interested in them. ,Doug
 
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Hi Doug,
Yes we are interested. And like you my wife and I can't figure out how to PM either!

I should have noted when describing what we have is a 1965 f100 Custom Cab Ranger.

On our rims the FORD script is in black, noticed some sites don't have them colored. Any reason why?
 
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Originally Posted by Oilboy34 View Post
So what we have is 1965 f100 Ranger with buckets in Palamino Crinkle. My strong suspicion is no center console.

There are no windshield sprayers just wipers. Maybe not unusual request for California?

As for color, steering column Navajo Beige, secondary color Wimbleton White, primary color TBD. As for primary, firewall, doors and door jambs and small splotch left on tailgate all look the same so will assume they are primary. Anybody care to guess what color that is?

Are there parts sources that put out good quality reproductions? TA mentioned Carolina Classics. Anywhere else?
On a related note, you can see on last picture posted the white door panels. There is 1 piece of chrome in picture which I'm guessing wraps the white panel. That 1 piece is all we have. How tough is it to find a replacement set?

TA, did see your H81 chart earlier. Anyone know on that chart what the 7 7 24 on right mean? My guess on the 24 is a cardboard/board like material with perforated holes in it as that what's in it and still in pretty good shape.
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Hi Doug,
Yes we are interested. And like you my wife and I can't figure out how to PM either!

I should have noted when describing what we have is a 1965 f100 Custom Cab Ranger.

On our rims the FORD script is in black, noticed some sites don't have them colored. Any reason why?

Not sure about that. Someone else might be able to answer that. Here is my email [email protected]
I will have to dig them out and get some pictures. Damn cold here this morning, -24 F. Have to bundle up to go to the shop. Third coldest Feb since they started recording temps, so much for global warming., Doug.
 
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-24 makes our 14 look downright balmy.
Don't make a special trip out there. Next time it warms up and you are heading that way is fine. Will email you.
 
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Great looking truck with great history!! Look forward to watching it transform on a side note,,, grrr... I hate it when vice grips get used as window cranks,
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Yes, they are Swatch Identification Numbers. I think ND said he has pages of swatches but if so I don't recall what year(s)
1957-1968
OP doesn't seem to understand that with no COLOR code stamped on the Warranty Plate w/a 6 digit DSO, the truck would not have been painted Navajo Beige/White

When I compared the color of the inside of the OP's door to the FoMoCo paint chip chart, it looks like Passenger Car COLOR code P - Medium Palomino Metallic aka Antique Bronze (Ford) aka Bronze (L/M). Basic number 1910.

No COLOR code: If the paint formula was needed, dealer contacted Ford with VIN and specific 6 digit DSO number. Ford looked up the order, then sent the formula to the dealer.

Plus, as you know, in 1965 there were two different whites used on cars/trucks, Pure White (C) and Wimbledon White (M). Was it painted either color or something else?

FoMoCo THREW AWAY all the records eons ago, so there's no way to find out.
 
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We are past the point of thinking truck was Navajo. My wife and I were leaning towards Prairie Bronze based on door jambs and firewall. Would that have left the paint code blank? We will also check out the colors you suggested.
I do believe the steering column is Navajo. And I'm also guessing dash and upper tailgate are Wimbleton. Do I know it for fact? No, just a guess holding swatches up to it.

What's your thought on our hubcaps with black script?
 
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We are past the point of thinking truck was Navajo. My wife and I were leaning towards Prairie Bronze based on door jambs and firewall. Would that have left the paint code blank? We will also check out the colors you suggested.
I do believe the steering column is Navajo. And I'm also guessing dash and upper tailgate are Wimbledon. Do I know it for fact? No, just a guess holding swatches up to it.

What's your thought on our hubcaps with black script?
If the exterior paint color was not offered for trucks, there was no COLOR code stamped on the Warranty Plate.

I've never seen a painted 'bottlecap' with black letters. My '65 was a Standard Cab, had painted white bottlecaps with red FORD letters. There were also painted argent caps with red letters.

However, a couple days after I bought it, I painted the Wimbledon White wheels black (entire truck was Wimbledon), installed NOS 1952 Packard wheel covers. The bottlecaps 'went to Valhalla.'
 
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Could you post the color codes available for 1965 f100 trucks? That will help us rule out those colors.
 
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Could you post the color codes available for 1965 f100 trucks? That will help us rule out those colors.
Sorry, not going to do it, it requires too damn much typing.

There are two different names for each color: The Promotional names listed in Sales Brochures, the actual colors listed in parts catalogs.

And these colors were used on all series' of trucks and Econolines, not just F100's.

Plus, trucks assembled in Canada offered some Canadian only colors. The COLOR codes for US vs. Canada may be the same, may not be.
 
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No worries. Saw on another post where you listed the 66 f100 colors. Thought maybe you had same for 65.
Basic question then, was Prairie Bronze a stock 65 f100 color?
 
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Originally Posted by Oilboy34 View Post
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Could you post the color codes available for 1965 f100 trucks? That will help us rule out those colors.
I believe what ND was trying to explain to you was, if there are NO colour codes on the plate, that truck was NOT painted in a standard truck colour.
Further, if there IS a DSO of 6 digits, the truck WAS painted in a NON-stock colour (perhaps not even a Ford colour).
I had a '64 E-350 that was painted the colour of the original purchaser's truck fleet, which was a colour not offered as stock by Ford.
You BEST hope of getting the correct colour is to find a hidden spot on the truck that still has enough area for a painter to 'read' the colour for a re-spray.
You may never know the colour, as the records are gone, and it is entirely possible that the colour was not offered by Ford.

Cosmo

P.S. The Ford service manual (which you should purchase post-haste), has the colours listed. It has a LOT of other, pertinent information, too.
 
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Thanks Cosmo,

Yes I understand it's not a standard ford truck color, hence no code listed. That's why asking for the list, it would immediately rule out those colors. Just doing google searches I've seen Prairie Bronze both listed and not listed as a truck color so unsure. The wife went through swatches and thinks Prairie Bronze is very close but if in fact it was stock truck color then it cant be. Will keep digging.

You bring up interesting point "perhaps not even a Ford Colour".

There are a number of spots on truck that our body shop can use to match color. Not worried about that, was just hoping to put a name to it.

I will look into ford service manual you refer to.
 
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I wouldn't necessarily say for 100% sure that a blank color code always meant a non-standard color. I've seen exceptions to every rule I've heard mentioned.

Stainless caps having black letters is very common amongst the used stainless caps and the literature I've seen. Here's the 6 F250 size caps that I've gotten from two different sources.



Here's some factory Ford photos from 1964 and 1965.

This first one shows the red paint on the 1963/64 trim, too.













Just a few examples.

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Originally Posted by Oilboy34 View Post
I will look into ford service manual you refer to.
Lotsa luck, because if there are no paint chips that define certain specific colors, how will you know which color is which?

I figured what the hell, I might as well pass the info along. However...I wonder how long it'll take before a certain member says I missed something or goofed? (sigh)

US = 1965/66 F100/1100: Actual colors listed first, followed by their promotional names. Some of the actual names of the colors are the same as the promotionals.

A = Black - Raven Black / B = Turquoise - Caribbean Turquoise / C = Pure White / F = Light Blue - Arcadian Blue / G = Chrome Yellow / H = Light Beige - Sahara Beige / J = Red - Rangoon Red / L = Dark Green - Holly Green / M = White - Wimbledon White / P = Peacock / W = Medium Blue - Marlin Blue // 3 = Light Blue - Skylight Blue / 8 = Yellow - Springtime Yellow

Navajo Beige isn't listed/shown. Is it the same as Light/Sahara Beige?

Prairie Bronze isn't listed either, but it is in the 1964/72 truck parts catalog. COLOR code E = Canada only.
 

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