Another crank no start.....
Thanks for all the advise and comments!
Pretty sure I figured out the original cause of the original crank no start problem. The oil filter! The previous owner had some shop do an oil change along with a bunch of other work. This truck had the aftermarket tall filter cap, and the filter that was in it wasn't right for the cap, the drain back valve in the filter housing wasn't depressed when filter was installed. I think unfiltered oil had been circulating through this engine and is why the IPR screen got hit with debris. I bought a new Motorcraft filter and cap, the spring pushed new filter back up a bit if you push filter down but don't engage thread of cap to housing. Old filter did not do this. I changed the oil as well. And now the engine starts right up every time, very little cranking time, maybe 3 seconds?
I've heard the arguments about filters with these 6.0's, and kind of rolled my eyes sometimes, but I should have taken that more seriously! So as a warning for anyone on here running a 6.0 and having a shop do your oil changes, you need to insist they only put in the proper cap and filter. If not, you could end up with long cranks or crank no starts and get stuck somewhere, maybe even have some towing. All for a filter! With this type of filter system, just use the Motorcraft, it isn't any more expensive and it is a patented filter for this engine. Can't go wrong. I think even Walmart carries the filter if you already have the correct shorter filter cap.
I did find an issue though. The IPR screen has a hole in it. Mind you this IPR was replaced the last time I did this air test and the truck has only run for about 10-15 minutes tops before it stalled. I removed the IPR screen and held plunger in while shooting it with carb clean to flush out debris. I got some junk out of it. Kind of a sandy type stuff. No idea what it is or how it got in there? Some of the stuff must have been a little of the screen but the rest looked like sand almost. One thing I will say, the oil filter isn't the motorcraft filter. The cap is a little taller. It is probably a store brand filter and cap, like a NAPA setup. I'm not sure being the last owner had a shop do the last oil change. I will be sure to replace it with a motorcraft filter and cap when I do the oil change.
I put the original ICP back in, it now reads .2 volts and zero pressure KOEO. Before I pulled the truck apart I cranked it so see if it showed any HPOP psi, it said zero.
Now I will need to get a new screen for the IPR before I can put the truck back together.
Any suggestions on how I could flush the HPOP? or the port for the IPR? I am concerend that this is going to be an ongoing thing, blowing junk into the IPR screen. I thought about leaving the air test fittingin and running a hose into a bucket, and just crank the starter to pump a little oil out. Not sure if that is a good idea or not?
Lol, you had it figured out 2-3 months ago. Seriously though, the issue is mainly when you mix and match filters and caps, but I am not all that impressed with the cheap aftermarket filter quality.
Glad it is running and starting well now. Thanks for updating.
I suppose if you bought a filter/cap kit you'd be ok but I think as sensitive as these things are to oil issues going with the motorcraft part is the best insurance. Just my opinion if course. I'm not usually one to say you should use OEM parts but I think it's worth it with this engine. Just not worth the risk. Oil filter is easy, figuring out a no start and fixing it isn't handy. I mean could Ford have rammed the engine any tighter in there?? Dang!
You probably already know this, but there are a ton of helpful and knowledgeable people here. Pretty much ready to help anyone that needs help or wants to learn.
Hopefully the cap and filter is all it is now!
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
It starts like a champ now, doesn't crank long at all. It is smooth and makes no odd noises. The original owner was a friend to the guy I bought the truck from. He took the truck to Ford for service. The last guy owned it for about 2 years, he took it to Jimmy Johns fix 'em up car shop, lol that shop is not a diesel shop. No idea why he went there. I assume he knew someone there and trusted them. Unfortunately for him, they are likely the cause of the IPR failure by putting mix & match oil filters/caps on the truck. He had just spent $2500 on the truck a month or so before it quit. He couldn't swing a repair that big again so he sold it to me for cost of repairs basically. The $2500 wasn't on crank no start issues. It was radiator, waterpump, brake work, glow plug harness and glow plugs, etc. All in all, I got a great deal on this truck. Along with the engine repairs that I did, I also replaced both bumpers and the bed. The guy was a tree guy. He was a little rough with things. I got a nice take off front bumper for $60 from a guy who put a winch type off roading bumper on. I got the rear bumper from ebay for $89, new with damage, but I can't find the damage. lol The bed had dents and top rail was bent out of whack. I bought a new take off bed at a county auction for $400 with tailgate. Not a mark on the bed. They bought new trucks and pulled the beds for service bodies. They had 2 - 8 foot beds that had been sitting on a trailer for a long time, basically brand new with spray in bedliner. I'm down to some interior touch ups and this thing is going to be real nice. Very happy with it! And I am not into it much money which is even sweeter!










