Cylinder problem valvetrain?
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Did some looking and the front cover is different from the pickup to the van.
Also the upper and lower oil pans are different.
Is the upper pan sealed to the bed plate with sealant or is there an o-ring for it?
Also the upper and lower oil pans are different.
Is the upper pan sealed to the bed plate with sealant or is there an o-ring for it?
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Its an o-ring, and you don't have to disturb the bedplate unless you want to inspect the main bearings. The crank bearings can be inspected without removing the bedplate.
I additionally sealed mine with TA-31 in hopes of better sealing the surfaces.
I'll add my videos doing that work if it may help. The crankshaft video shows the windage tray/upper oil pan towards the end.
I additionally sealed mine with TA-31 in hopes of better sealing the surfaces.
I'll add my videos doing that work if it may help. The crankshaft video shows the windage tray/upper oil pan towards the end.
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I should have done a video on it first, rather than the planned doing it last. Except for the engine mounting plates and shafts, it's all bolted together with 8020 aluminum. The turning gear are parts from an inexpensive HF hand winch. I made the shafting too precise, it didn't need to be if I used a flexible pillar bearing on the non-driven end.
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I just picked up my second engine stand today.
Have to separate the transmission that came with the engine and then mount that bad boy.
Shooting for tomorrow. Then pull the heads and get them to the machine shop.
Have to separate the transmission that came with the engine and then mount that bad boy.
Shooting for tomorrow. Then pull the heads and get them to the machine shop.
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Tore into the new engine a bit stripping off parts this morning. The up pipe bolts will need to be cut off. Everything is pretty crusty on this old girl. At least with the turbo out of the way it is starting to look a little less cluttered.
I would absolutely hate to work on an E van with a 6 liter in it.
I would absolutely hate to work on an E van with a 6 liter in it.
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never done that with a 6.0 but, back when, I pulled a head off my E series 6.9 and ended up pulling the engine, almost anything on a van is insane except pulling the turbo. Later on, with another E350 I changed the body leaving the engine in place. But really non of the stuff we do is fun.
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I didn't use a lift or cherry picker. I used a rail (or maybe a pipe that time?) that was supported from the van floor with wood cribbing near or maybe just behind the two front seat area (removed) then a chain fall holding the rail/pipe up out in front of the van and started off with the rail tilted down in front and then picked the rail up to level with the chainfall and slid the engine out past the front end. Not sure if a hydraulic engine lift can get that low, you only have a few inches of head room. Now I hear there is a fixture that bolts to the engine front that I think ford uses to lift the engine, maybe with a fork lift. Members Too many Toys and Smackdaddy have some knowledge of that I think. If that was available to borrow that might be much easier, oh the forklift too! Mine was a poor boy effort in my back yard shop. I changed some gasoline engines in at least two other vans but things back from the late 70's and 80's are a little muddled up in my mind. But that was the general procedure I used.
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I got the van engine torn down and the heads off last night. Still have to swap the oil coolers, front cover and oil pans but I needed to get the heads to the machine shop today. It definitely looks like the van motor had blown head gaskets in a few spots. Had 1 glow plug that was carboned up the shaft of the glow plug too. It also looks like there are 2 newer injectors on the passenger side too. I bet the mechanic had fun doing those! Standpipes and d-plugs are the updated style.
Does anybody know if the 08+ van engines got the STC updates?
Does anybody know if the 08+ van engines got the STC updates?
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They are the only thing you can do unless you buy aftermarket.
International stopped making the longer 6.0L pushrods. According to Geoff at Colt Cams, there was no justification other than reducing inventory despite the internet roomer.
Based on measurements I took of the lifters, the longer pushrods still had a lot of travel in the lifters despite they were recessed deeper than most engine designs. The only thing I could find that might explain the reasoning was years ago Jarad of KDD said he found there was a wide variation in the rocker arms. If that's true, you'd need a longer pushrod to set the plunger deeper so you didn't stroke the plunger out.
International stopped making the longer 6.0L pushrods. According to Geoff at Colt Cams, there was no justification other than reducing inventory despite the internet roomer.
Based on measurements I took of the lifters, the longer pushrods still had a lot of travel in the lifters despite they were recessed deeper than most engine designs. The only thing I could find that might explain the reasoning was years ago Jarad of KDD said he found there was a wide variation in the rocker arms. If that's true, you'd need a longer pushrod to set the plunger deeper so you didn't stroke the plunger out.