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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 10:14 AM
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Hello Guys, need some expert opnions and speculation!

So my Excursion is finally showing some terrible transmission problem - my local garage repair man suggests to sell the truck (not really happening). But I'm also worried about the cost which I understand a full transmission rebuilt is around $4-$5K.

So the truck rides fine, goes thru all 4 speeds, no problem. But when placing the truck in Park, it stays in nuetral, also moving the gears shift from park to drive or back to reverse is getting too silky, almost as if the gears is not catching. I always have to put on the foot brake because I'm never sure when it's in park and I know that can quite dangerous for such a large truck.

I imagine this is still considered a transmission repair? How much am I looking at? Thank you for your help!
 
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 12:10 PM
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The iffiness in park could be the DRS (position switch) on the side of the trans, or some play in the end of your shifter. Check those first before you decide the trans is toast!

I mean... a remanufactured transmission only costs $1600 plus core and s/h (comes out to exactly $2000 for me, with $325 back with the core return)
Assuming you're talking about the gas 5.4 v8, not the diesel 7.3 v8... https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...+assembly,8556

Rebuilding your current transmission will likely cost $4-5K at a shop... rebuild kit is only about $200 to DIY.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 96firephoenix
The iffiness in park could be the DRS (position switch) on the side of the trans, or some play in the end of your shifter. Check those first before you decide the trans is toast!

I mean... a remanufactured transmission only costs $1600 plus core and s/h (comes out to exactly $2000 for me, with $325 back with the core return)
Assuming you're talking about the gas 5.4 v8, not the diesel 7.3 v8... https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...+assembly,8556

Rebuilding your current transmission will likely cost $4-5K at a shop... rebuild kit is only about $200 to DIY.
Yes, it's the gas 5.4 v8.

Whoo, doesn't sound that bad then. I'll take it this weekend to get an estimate. Hopefully, it has not ruined the tranny.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 01:39 PM
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It isn't the DTRS (Digital Transmission Range Sensor) on the side of the transmission. That has NOTHING to do with park .

There are two bolts at the lower end of the steering column that attach the shift cable bracket to the shift tube. They are known for loosening and making it hard to get the shifter into park. Get a #30 Torx driver. Crawl under the dash and look up the steering column.

 
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Old Jun 20, 2018 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
It isn't the DTRS (Digital Transmission Range Sensor) on the side of the transmission. That has NOTHING to do with park .

There are two bolts at the lower end of the steering column that attach the shift cable bracket to the shift tube. They are known for loosening and making it hard to get the shifter into park. Get a #30 Torx driver. Crawl under the dash and look up the steering column.
You are the expert on this, but My thinking was that if the DTRS has a mechanical failure, it could be binding and preventing the shifter from moving properly into park...

Thanks for posting the picture of the bolts, this is exactly what I was referring to.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2018 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 96firephoenix
You are the expert on this, but My thinking was that if the DTRS has a mechanical failure, it could be binding and preventing the shifter from moving properly into park...
I can't say that's impossible, but it's improbable. I've never seen that happen.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2018 | 11:26 AM
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Oddly enough to mention the shifter not wanting to go into park. I work on the equipment my cousin uses for his roofing business. He purposely bought an e350 van and a f250 because I know a lot more about fords than chevys or dodges. Within a week of each other I had to tighten and actually replace lost bolts in the photo above. The shifter didn’t feel like it would firmly locate each gear when shifted and also would not go into park at all. The vehicle would remain in reverse although showing to be in park on the shift indicator and allowing the key cylinder to turn to the lock position. I would suspect the mentioned bolts before jumping into a new transmission.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2018 | 12:13 PM
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If that part isn't loose, the next culprit may be the shift bushing down at the trans, or possible the shifter shaft bushings in the column. I did mine (shaft bushings, they we're destroyed), and though the two bolts weren't loose I still lock-tighted them when I was reassembling the shaft into the column.
 
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This is the one down at the trans (part was confirmed by calling them since there's other numbers like F2KITx (F2KIT1, F2KIT2 etc) and was told any of the F2KITx will work.

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This is the shaft set.

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Old Jun 20, 2018 | 11:50 PM
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I broke the "ear" off at the end of the steering column shift tube where one of those two bolts goes, that break led me to believe it was the position switch but in all reality it was the slop in the column. The bushings for the shift tube were toast too. Ended up finding the piece at a junkyard, new position switch (before I knew it was the shift tube bracket), some lock -tite and I was good to go.

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