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Old 05-09-2018, 09:19 PM
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Screwed up my Transmission!

Finally got around to greasing the slip-yoke in my 2002 F150. Long story short after doing this, the transmission seems to be slipping in first gear. After a few miles of driving the truck first gear seemed weak, didn't really want to creep like usual. And the moment the engines starts revving the trans kicks in harder and the truck sort of lurches forward. Only really happens form a standstill. Seems to shift ok after that.

What I believe happened was that I gobbed too much grease into the slip yoke, and when I put it in, a bunch of grease squeezed out into the transmission fluid.

So do you think the transmission is screwed? I drove it maybe 20 miles like this. I was thinking I could maybe flush the transmission fluid and see if that fixes it. Although the truck does already have 180,000 miles so the tranny may be due for a rebuild anyway.

Driveshaft clunk is gone lol!
 
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Old 05-09-2018, 10:23 PM
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have you checked the trans fluid level ? How would you get grease into the transmission by putting grease on the splines ?
 
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Old 05-09-2018, 10:30 PM
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Checked the fluid level and it looked good.
I read on another forum that if the wrong grease is used for the slip yoke that it could melt and mix with the ATF, causing issues. I figured the same would apply grease squeezed out of the splines. I put a lot in the yoke.

I was driving the truck around immediately before doing the driveshaft and it felt fine. After the job the truck started feeling funky.
 
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Old 05-09-2018, 10:44 PM
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The only way it would slip is if you used moly grease Nd put a ton of it on there. Is this truck 2wd?
 
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Old 05-09-2018, 10:54 PM
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Yes it’s 2wd 5.4. I used motorcraft ptfe grease. Used about half a 3 oz bottle.

I was sitting in stop and go city traffic almost the whole time this was happening. Maybe the trans was over heating?
 
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Old 05-09-2018, 10:59 PM
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Well I would immediately try to drain and refill the transmission. Lucky the 2001 trucks have a torque converter drain. So if you drop the pan and drain the torque converter you will get most of it out and then you can inspect for physical debris in the pan.
 
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Old 05-09-2018, 11:01 PM
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Ok thanks.
So do you think the grease had anything to do with it? Or was it just a coincidence I did that right before sitting in stop and go traffic for an hour.
 
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Old 05-09-2018, 11:05 PM
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Well coming from someone who did screw up one of these 10 years ago putting too much moly grease I know the consequences well. But PTFE grease is safer and it could be coincidental but you should do a drain an fill.
 
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Old 05-10-2018, 01:14 PM
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Drove the truck again today. Felt completely normal and never felt like it was clunking into 1st gear like it did yesterday.

So I think it was the 20 miles of bumper to bumper traffic that probably overheated the trans. Still not happy with the way it felt. But the transmission probably isn’t in top shape after 180,000 miles.

Still think it’s worth it to change the fluid? It actually looks really good, not burnt and has a nice red tint.
 
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Old 05-10-2018, 10:17 PM
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how old is the fluid..?. could be lots of CRUD floating around inside that can stick valves, etc... COLOR is not all that is important.
 
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Yeah I’ll go ahead and change it anyway. Definitely can’t hurt. Should I replace the transmission filter too?

And I’ve driven the truck probably another 50 miles of mostly mild low traffic and neighborhood driving and it never did it again.
 
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Old 05-13-2018, 07:51 AM
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Yeah I’ll go ahead and change it anyway. Definitely can’t hurt. Should I replace the transmission filter too?

And I’ve driven the truck probably another 50 miles of mostly mild low traffic and neighborhood driving and it never did it again.
yes replace the filter along with the fresh tranny fluid....just stay away from Fram....better off with OEM or wix filters
 
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Old 05-13-2018, 08:01 AM
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Agreed.
I used Castrol fluid and changed the filter.
Added a BM drain plug to the pan and also drained the TC
 
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UPDATE:

So this is what it looked like when I changed the trans filter and fluid. little to no debris, but as pictured the fluid was pretty dark. Turns out my truck didn't have the converter drain so I only ended up replacing a little over 4 quarts of fluid. Still seems to act the same when the trans is hot. Seems ever so slightly better, but that may be my imagination.

So my big question is whether I should get all the fluid flushed? Talked to a few transmission rebuilders and they said a flush would be wasting my money, that the clutches are probably worn down to the metal, one even said a flush could make it worse since the transmission wouldn't be used to thinner fluid. Although they sort of trailed off when I asked why it acted normal 99% of the time.

Anyway what do you think? Would a transmission flush be a waste of money and trash the transmission, or are the rebuilders just wanting another customer?
 
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Old 06-14-2018, 08:42 PM
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Your report that the engine revs and then the trans takes hold suggest the A solenoid opens, the pressure rises, then the Servo 'fast' engages the clutch pak..
This suggests the valve in the valve body is either sticking or it's spring is broken.
The spring is there to soften the fluid flow to the SERVO and prevent harsh sudden engagements.
Good luck.
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