Considering the 4300D is scarce as hell and big buck when found and a spread bore the 4300 of course. And accepting the 4180C is irrelevant to the discussion at hand as the OP is NOT going to use it. He was going to get a Carter/Edlebrock . This is exactly what I meant by making stuff overly complicated.




The correct way is what ever the installer finds acceptable.
Blocking off the EGR mount with a plate does NOT drastically introduce exhaust heat under the carb as their is no flow and that space just become dead space and as we all know AIR is the best insulator there is, it is a myth that you need to fully block off the EGR at the intake to drastically reduce the temp under the carb in this style set up.




You really need to look at a map, these laws ONLY apply in the USA, and last time I checked the rest of the planet was not part of the USA. Don't go assuming every body on the planet is bound by American Federal Emission regulations.. Cause guess what we are not.



I was at the technical information session when Holley launched the 4010/4011 back in the late 80's The Holley 4010's lead designer was also worked on the 4100 Autolite. And the early 4010's were no prize they suffered from fuel leaks cracked castings inconsistent operation and whole host of other issues. The carb quickly gained a reputation as a bad carb and sales never hit the expected targets.

And the Summit carb is a licensed copy as summit bought production rights and licensed the design from Holley for production, knock off imply's an unlicensed copy of something.
And just as well it is a new casting to be honest as the original was not great to say the least. The Summit carb has been on the market for several years now, early ones has some QA/QC issues but that has long since be resolved and the design was modified to fix some of the short comings in the 4010. I would take the Summit over a rebuilt 4010 any day of the week.

And the OP stated that he has not yet got the Edelbrock Carb the Summit is a cheaper alternative that is simpler to learn on and takes way easier found Holley bits.


Not at all they regularly come up on ebay are found at swap meets on craigslist/Kijiji and still in wrecking yards and are available from many reputable re builders. This is not like to trying to find a 4300D


Ford used very few of them try to find a Ford application carter now... and you only need to have knowledge of them if you are planning on running one other wise there is NO NEED to have some knowledge of them,
Ford also used Q jets but I don't see Ford guys running out to get familiar with them.

Again this was made way more over complicated than it needed to be. Every one of threads does not need to degrade in to an FN pissing match and it just discourages newbies from frequenting the board when they get information overload a lot of what brought in this thread had NO relevance to what was asked by the OP. All he wanted to know what adapter he needed to run the Edelbroick on his 351HO Intake.

The answer

An EGR spacer plate such as this
https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...8053/overview/

Or a factory one from a 429/460 4BBL with the 4300.

And block off the EGR if you are not using it.
Or build your own.

 

Let's just agree that we disagree...

I would never put anything CHI-COM (other than an OEM Service Part) on my or another persons vehicle.

If you read the INSTR SHEET for that PN, you will see they claim it is an exact replacement for the OEM spacer. If so, it is not a squarebore, therefore he can bolt the 1405 directly to the OEM spacer. I mentioned that several posts back.

 

So CANADA is exempt from Vehicle Emission Laws?

Source- https://www.ec.gc.ca/air/default.asp...n&n=AE4ECEC1-1

 

That is Federal for new vehicle sales ONLY. After purchase it falls in to the preview of each province or territory.

Each province and territory has it's OWN regulations regarding the retention of emission equipment.
Want to tear it all out in some places it is perfectly legal to do so. Want to have a Diesel that smokes like a steam engine your choice want to pull the cats dump the DPF or what ever else, you can choose to do what ever you want in some locations with NO repercussions.. You are NOT required to keep the emissions equipment intact in some places.

It is up to the province or territory to decide what goes on the road and what does not. You can still home build a vehicle from scratch in some places and it just has to meet the minimum provincial guidelines and emissions is NOT a requirement in some places to get it on the road.

 

The OP is domiciled in AZ, USA.

Is it OK if he alters and/or defeats his vehicle emission equipment?

I can see where this is going and I do not wish to participate.

 

That is his responsibility to figure out. Not ours.


I stated


" it is illegal to modify emissions equipment in some locations but not all, even to this day it can be done in some areas with NO repercussions what so ever (short of voiding new car warranty )"


Your response was

"You really need to study up on FED and STATE Vehicle Emissions Law.

What you are implying is skirting the law hopefully with no repercussions. When you make this assertion, the reader has to understand what he might be undertaking."


There was no HOPEFULLY WITH NO REPRUCUSSIONS implied at all.

YOU implied every one was bound US federal legislation such IS NOT the case.

It was already stated that "it is illegal to modify emissions equipment in some locations but not all"
It is his responsibility to find out what is allowed in his area not ours and I'm pretty sure he has an idea what he can and can not do.
Again muddying the waters with stuff that is not relevant to the discussion at hand.

 

Edelbrock offers 2 EGR manifolds for the 351W; 3781 (2bbl) which is a 2 piece manifold, with the top being the 8057 top adapter and 3783 (4 bbl) which is the same bottom with the 8053 top adapter. I have the 3781 manifold.
I spoke to the Edelbrock Tech Line and told them I wanted to convert to Edelbrock 1406 4 bbl. but without EGR. He told me that for 4 bbl "off-road use" (read that EGR delete) I needed their 8714 adapter. Seems like that might work for you too.

 

THANX!

Looks like that is the trick to solve the entire issue-

1" Thick

 

Due to short eyeballs and severe brain cell damage over my younger years resulting from excessive -- consumption, I mis-read the Casting I.D. No on the 351W HO intake discussed on this thread.

I believe it is actually E6TE 9425-CA

I know some have found this thread overwhelming but it is what it is...

 

Marine application OMC Cobra, Stern drive.

SOURCE- Ed's Carburetor Forum. Carbs rule!!!!:

F1JL 9510-EA 351” 5.8L (H.O.) H-4 4010 R-50483A, R-84046A

PN Prefix 3rd Character J as INDUSTRIAL/MARINE Application

 

To update the thread I got the Edelbrock 1405 carb and it does work with the spacer and intake I already had so now to finish the rest of the engine.
Trav

 

THANX!...