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Old Jul 30, 2017 | 08:43 AM
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Ok so I am rebuilding my 351w for my bronco and I have a e6te-9425-ca 4barrel carb intake from a HO 351w. I know this isn't the best intake but I got it for free so trying to stay budget like.

Anyways I am reading this is a spread bore intake and the carb I will be getting is a Edelbrock 1405 (want the manual choke). Which adapter will I need to work correctly?

The Edelbrock 2696 adapter looks like the ports are to far apart. I don't know a damn thing about carbs so bare with me.
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Old Jul 30, 2017 | 09:07 AM
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The Eddy 1405 will bolt to the manifold if it is from an HO. The original carb was the Holley 4180 and it has the standard 4bbl bolt pattern. But, there's an EGR plate under the Holley that you will need to retain as there's a hole in the intake for the exhaust gas to go in. You can block that hole with a gasket or shim between the EGR plate and the manifold.

But if you don't have the plate I'm not sure how to block the hole. Perhaps drill it, tap it, and install a pipe plug. Or, I seem to recall there is a really small soft plug that will fit. However, you might have to run JB Weld over the plug and then file it even with the top of the mounting plate to ensure there isn't a vacuum leak.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2017 | 05:27 PM
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The Eddy 1405 will bolt to the manifold if it is from an HO. The original carb was the Holley 4180 and it has the standard 4bbl bolt pattern. But, there's an EGR plate under the Holley that you will need to retain as there's a hole in the intake for the exhaust gas to go in. You can block that hole with a gasket or shim between the EGR plate and the manifold.

But if you don't have the plate I'm not sure how to block the hole. Perhaps drill it, tap it, and install a pipe plug. Or, I seem to recall there is a really small soft plug that will fit. However, you might have to run JB Weld over the plug and then file it even with the top of the mounting plate to ensure there isn't a vacuum leak.
Ok what I should say is it is supposedly is an HO intake. I don't know if it is an HO intake for sure but when I googled the part# it said it was a spread bore intake HO but that was on a boat forum.

I have the space with egr on it still. Will the egr even work since I am deleting the electronics? I don't care about fuel mileage the truck is a toy really.
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Old Jul 30, 2017 | 05:51 PM
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If the manifold is truly marked E6TE 9425-TA then I don't know what it is. First, because an intake manifold on a Ford is a 9424, not a 9425. Second, because that number doesn't show in the catalog even if it were 9424, as shown below.

If the manifold was from an 84 or 85 it should be marked E4TE 9424-BB. I don't know what a manifold from an 86 would be as I don't see it listed, but I wasn't aware they changed it from 85.




 
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Old Jul 30, 2017 | 06:07 PM
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It definitely is an E6TE-9425-CA. Unless the 6 is an 8. As you can see in the pictures the front are smaller the the rear. The last picture is the spacer.
Pics are upside down sorry.
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Old Jul 30, 2017 | 06:46 PM
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I don't know what it is. I think I have an HO manifold off of an '85 and can look on Tuesday to see what it is marked. But 9425 doesn't show in the catalog other than the fact it says "9424-5", but then none of the numbers show as "9425".
 
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Old Jul 30, 2017 | 07:15 PM
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^9425 is either the basic casting or basic ID number, it's related to the intake manifolds basic part number of 9424.
Originally Posted by Redneckfordf2502002
Ok what I should say is it is supposedly is an HO intake. I don't know if it is an HO intake for sure but when I googled the part# it said it was a spread bore intake HO but that was on a boat forum.

What part number did you google? I read thru this thread, didn't see where you posted a Ford part number of any kind.

E6TE-9425-CA is the ID engineering number of the manifold, it's not the part number.

I could not cross this ID number over to a part number, but it may be this: E6TZ-9424-C .. 351W Intake Manifold: 1986/89 LTD/Grand Marquis.

Yes, I know that the E6TE prefix is 1986 truck/Bronco related, but this manifold is not listed for any truck or Bronco. The applications you see...are it.

The 1984/85 F150/350 & Bronco 351W 4V intake manifold is cast iron and is marked E4TE-9424-BB

Edit: 5J13 = Manifold cast September (J) 13, 1985 (5). A = January, M = December, the letter I is skipped.

It's too bad you cannot read or find the ID engineering number marked on the EGR/Carb spacer plate.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2017 | 07:28 PM
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No idea if it was EFI or not before. The only other number on this intake is 5j13 or sj13 can't tell.

Not sure what makes you think it is EFI though as it is a 351 which didn't go EFI till 88.

I googled the e6te-9425-ca number and it comes up on marine forums and people saying off a van.

The intake came with a C6 and np208 transfer case supposedly from the same truck a bronco or f150.
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Old Jul 30, 2017 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
^9425 is either the basic casting or basic ID number, it's related to the intake manifolds basic part number of 9424.

What part number did you google? I read thru this thread, didn't see where you posted a Ford part number of any kind.

E6TE-9425-CA is the ID engineering number of the manifold, it's not the part number.

I could not cross this ID number over to a part number, but it may be this: E6TZ-9424-C .. 351W Intake Manifold: 1986/89 LTD/Grand Marquis.

Yes, I know that the E6TE prefix is 1986 truck/Bronco related, but this manifold is not listed for any truck or Bronco. The applications you see...are it.

The 1984/85 F150/350 & Bronco 351W 4V intake manifold is cast iron and is marked E4TE-9424-BB

Edit: 5J13 = Manifold cast September (J) 13, 1985 (5). A = January, M = December, the letter I is skipped.

It's too bad you cannot read or find the ID engineering number marked on the EGR/Carb spacer plate.

Carb spacer number is e4ze-9a589-gb is what I can read.
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Old Jul 30, 2017 | 10:55 PM
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Question and it probably is extremely stupid to you guys but again I don't know crap about carbs.

Is it normal that the primaries are slightly bigger then the secondaries on a square bore or is that what makes it a spread bore. Looking at this thread these intakes look the same (I know the part numbers or casting I'd is different).
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...manifolds.html
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Application 86 thru 88 F/E series 351 HO.
 
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The actual Casting No is E6TE 9425-GA. E6TE 9425-CA is actually a 351W Marine intake.

In addition Gary, an Engineering PN may have a different Basic Part No compared to a Service Part No. In this instance 9424 for Service Basic PN and 9425 for Engineering Basic PN.

The throttle bores are of a spread bore design, meaning the original carb had larger secondary throttle bores than primary.
 

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Originally Posted by KULTULZ
The actual Casting No is E6TE 9425-GA. E6TE 9425-CA is actually a 351W Marine intake.

In addition Gary, an Engineering PN may have a different Basic Part No compared to a Service Part No. In this instance 9424 for Service Basic PN and 9425 for Engineering Basic PN.

The throttle bores are of a spread bore design, meaning the original carb had larger secondary throttle bores than primary.
So that's why the catalog says "9424-5"? Good to know. Thanks.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2017 | 08:24 AM
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So if all this is true then will this adapter work for this manifold to the Edelbrock 1405?
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-g1403/overview/
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Originally Posted by Redneckfordf2502002
Carb spacer number: E4ZE-9A589-GB
E4ZZ-9A589-E .. EGR/Carb Spacer Plate (Motorcraft CM-4349) / Marked: E4ZE-9A589-GB

1984/88 E150/F150 & Bronco 351W 4V // 1985/88 E250/350 & F250/350 351W 4V w/a M/T // 1984/86 Capri & 1984/87 Mustang 302 w/a M/T.
 
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