Gas is cheap. And a motor home means you don't need a hotel room. I agree with AB. And if not now, when are you going to see the places you want to see?

 

Gas may be cheap in OK, but Governor 'Moonbeam' of CA recently signed a bill that adds 50 cents to every gallon of gas.

This is to pay for the high speed train that will route thru the Central Valley, that is...if it's ever finished. Pols have been talking about this boondoggle for years.

Elect Democrats, they'll find a way to spend your money, usually on worthless programs.

This is Moonbeam's 2nd time around, we got rid of him the first time with the battle cry: If it's Brown, flush it!

I am going to visit all the places that I want to see and I think that Aunt Blabby will want to see them too.

Excepting maybe the gun shops, I'm going to stop at a few to see if I can add a WinM1895 or two to my collection.

 

Here is a couple pics of the spacer. Top and bottom of it.
Trav

 

The ports are different as the 4180C was an emissions carb. Smaller primaries for emissions and fuel economy.

 

We're not going to be in California for real long at all, and the percentage of the total will be insignificant.

Motel rooms for the nights would be my suggestion (beds are more comfortable, more room, etc.) but the mobile bedroom makes sense to offer alternatives, we won't be restricted to stopping in any one place.

These things come in different sizes; we don't need a Winnebago, something half that size or smaller would be fine and they get better gas mileage. Something like a van conversion.

My opinion, for whatever it's worth.

 

You know something?

Instead of playing CHINESE FIRE DRILL and spending a lot of money, take the 1405 and set it on that spacer. All throttle plates should clear. Being a square bore (1405) the secondaries bore size in this instance will not matter too much on the HOLLEY 4180C spacer as it is not a HP engine. Either keep or defeat the EGR System.

Try it on the bench. Raising the carb with a spacer/adapter might create even more linkage geometry problems than the ones you are going to encounter.

 

could I just pull the egr spacer off and put a regular carb spacer on it which will keep it lower so that won't happen? Like I said the egr system is useless to me cause I don't care if the thing get 8 might it is just a toy. He'll my 88 efi truck has no egregious system working and it gets 12-14mpg with a c6 and 4.10s. Also the engine isn't stock I have a mild cam and ported e7te heads going on it with h pipe exhaust duals with high flow cats and flow master 40 mufflers.

 

Most of the time the standard carb spacer does not cover up the egr port ( the small bump out) in the manifold.

 

damn. This thing is starting to make me wonder if I should just suck it up and but a edelbrock performer intake. Anybody want to trade an edelbrock performer intake for a Chevy 350 for a 351 ford . LOL

 

The EGR spacer plate will cover the EGR port aftermarket spacer plates will not.

A standard square bore Holley or Carter (edlebrock) Carb will go on with no issues plus Edelbrock makes a square EGR Spacer plates that will cover the EGR port in the intake.

Not sure what all the confusion is about, this is not rocket science

 

ok so I will just get the edelbrock 1405 carb and try checking if it works now luck then buy a edelbrock performer intake.

And BTW it is pretty much rocket science to me cause I deal with fuel injection and the only reason I didn't make this truck efi is I want to learn how to mess with carbs.

 

It will be a learning curve, and I was referencing the manifold thing it got way over complicated in this thread when all you wanted to know is if the carb would fit and what the Intake was off.

If you want learn about cabs and how they function the easiest one to start with is an Autolite/Ford 2100/2150 they are dead nuts simple should be an easy find at the wreckers off any 60's thru early 80's ford with a V8 or V6.
Get a junker carb and tear it down every one here will willingly help ya along. when you have questions.

Not all of us are familiar with Holley's or the Carter (Edelbrock) but almost all us us are familiar with the 2100/2150.
Also do not overlook the Summit carb https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...00vs/overview/

It is a rebrand of the the Holley 4010 and the Holley 4010 is a modified version of the Autolite (Ford) 4100 4BBL most of the same guys that designed the 4100 designed the 4010

Many think the 4100 Autolite was the best factory 4BBL ever offered and some feel it was best 4BBL period.

 

PN as I have not come across it?

The intake exhaust cross-over can be blocked making the EGR port ineffective. But it requires pulling the intake.

Plain and simple, the only correct way to go about it is non-EGR manifold replacement, using the 4180C on the EGR Spacer or having a spacer /plate made to cover the EGR supply hole..

But the 1405 will go to the EGR spacer with only minor secondary misalignment that should not cause any problem. If not wanting to make SUMMIT richer, this is the way I would go (actually I would go HOLLEY).

No, it is not rocket science, but a problem (FORD) since 1973 that has not been addressed as it is illegal to modify emissions equipment.

BTW- The SUMIT CARB is a knock-off of the 4010 and made off-shore. If you want a true 4010, HOLLEY offers them reman. And yes it is a nice carb but they never caught on as they were not OEM to any manufacturer, sales were bad and so HOLLEY dropped production.

 

Edelbrock Ford EGR Adapter 4BBL
https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...8053/overview/
This also solves the spreabore issue short of finding a factory one off a 460 with the 4300.

Edelbrock Ford EGR Adapter 2BBL
https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...8057/overview/

Adapter Edelbrock intake to Ford EGR plate
https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...8017/overview/


You can also just bolt a plate in place of the EGR or leave the EGR in place but disconnected. There is no "correct way" unless you want the EGR spacer plate removed all together.
And it is illegal to modify emissions equipment in some locations but not all, even to this day it can be done in some areas with NO repercussions what so ever (short of voiding new car warranty ).

The summit carb is not really a knock off it is rebrand as Summit bought the production rights from Holley for the 4010. Sort of like how Edelbrock got the Carter,

And the way I read it the OP does not yet have the Edelbrock as he stated he will be getting it, and the 4010 is a much simpler carb to learn on and less expensive than the Carter/Edlebrock so just giving him options.

Given the choice I'd take a 4100 then a standard Holley but the Holley is not really the best carb to cut your teeth on and the Carter even less so IMHO. So the Summit 4010 is a good compromise and it seems to be have been getting reviews as good as the Edlebrock and possibly even better...

Personally Carters just don't look right on Ford engines, Chrysler yes Ford no.

 

A 4300A or D? D I assume.

This is actually a service replacement for the FORD square-bore spacer. It allows re-positioning/mounting adjustment of the valve itself. It will not accept the 4180C.

This plate allows a square-bore carb to be mounted on a EDEL spread-bore intake. It is also useful on an EDEL square-bore intake to seal the carb mounting pads wall from vacuum leaks as the walls were cast too thin.

The correct way would be to machine a steel plate to mount under the EGR spacer as to prevent exhaust gases from entering the spacer altogether. This should fool a sniff test inspector and retain the OEM appearance and retain the heated cross-over w/o burning out the spacer or introducing exhaust heat under the carb..

You really need to study up on FED and STATE Vehicle Emissions Law.

What you are implying is skirting the law hopefully with no repercussions. When you make this assertion, the reader has to understand what he might be undertaking.

-Federal Regulation of Aftermarket Parts-

The tooling for the 4010 was destroyed. Supposedly the engineer who designed it originally helped with the replacement design. There was a lot of trouble with first production. Casting was CHI-COM and assembled here. It is similar to the HOLLEY 4010 but is not the actual HOLLEY. As mentioned, if you want an actual 4010/4011, HOLLEY offers them (did) REMAN.

-Summit Carb Review and Road Test - 2009-

Unmolested 4100's are hard to find.

This is IMO or actually in your opinion.

I am nor ever was a CARTER fan but FORD did use a lot of them on production (Early FORD-LINC) so you have to have some knowledge of them.