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I'm confused. You have a Lariat Ultimate and you don't have BLIS and LED's? What year is your truck?
Correct 2017 F350 Lariat Ultimate with power running boards, but no BLIS. In my research of looking up numerous VIN's, there are tons of trucks that have the Ultimate package with no BLIS or LED's, turns out to be very common. I have no idea why BLIS just isn't always included, but it's not.
To be honest the side blind spot mirrors work well....but there's been two times in the last month, just backing up, people just flying through parking lots, so I'm just trying to get it to work just for that BS !!
I needed a vehicle and took one off the lot "OR" I would have ordered it from the factory...maybe next time I will just walk and wait for an ordered truck. Not working yet, still trying.
Thanks,
Chuck
Sorry guys I have not been following the post as I have been on vacation with limited internet connection. No I do not still have the connector plug on the BLIS mirror as I discarded it sorry. Chuck we will get yours to work 100% just hang in there. Your drivers side works fine just need to chase down why the passenger side will not light up. Just wanted to touch base now that Im back from vacation.
The parts are starting to arrive and the new glass / mirrors showed up. The old glass has a symbol for for a heated mirror, but the new glass has only the blind spot LED. Do the mirrors that have Blind Spot not have the symbol or is there a mirror that has both the Blind Stop LED and the heated mirror symbol.
Quick update, most the parts have arrived. Turns out you need a quantity of two for the screws for the sensor bracket to the taillight, each bag only has 4 screws, but you need 8 in total.
Still need to identify the two machine screws that hold the sensors to the bracket, a call to the parts dept tomorrow.
Tomorrow I'll stop by the junk yard to pickup some 22 awg wire and look for that connector that is used for the blind spot LED.
I believe I've found the pins for the 22 conductor connector so you add the missing pins instead of cutting the wires for the LED. They arrived today and they look right but I won't know until I assemble everything. If they work, I have a 100 of them so I'll be willing to mail pins to those who are using doing the swap.
OK, Project started, rear harness replaced, taillights, brackets, senors, pigtails, all correct part numbers. Everything in the rear of the truck swapped.
Now fishing that mirror is a complete different story, ended up taking the mirror off the truck and now have become a certified master of glass removal, caps off without breaking the center clip, overall disassembly of the mirror, what a PITA.
Since I have the pins for the mirror connector and don't need to cut the wire on the truck, I started looking real close at the connector on the mirror side. There already is a wire in pin 20 (gray with black stripe), I traced this wire to the mirror motor 6 pin connector. So cutting this wire is in the truck will result in cutting the wire to the mirror motor, (thinking this is not good).
Questions:
Guessing that pin 13 is the switched pin, don't know if they (Ford) are switching the negative side or the positive. Haven't metered this yet.
@Stroking how did you determine to use pins 13 and 20? Do you have a schematic, or a drawing form a service manual? This would be big help.
Where can I get the wiring diagrams for a Superduty?
Tomorrow I'll program the truck for BLIS, thanks all who shared the settings. I've have also downloaded the as-built data for numerous trucks with BLIS and run their configurations through the as-built comparison program to double check the configuration settings.
I wouldn't cut that wire...definitely run two new wires to the plug for 20 the ground and 13 the signal.. I had an issue where I may have shorted out the PDM module in the door.
I just got mine up running yesterday and all is great now. You may have to enter different codes for your SODL and SODR modules not sure if the ones I used will work for you.
I wouldn't cut that wire...definitely run two new wires to the plug for 20 the ground and 13 the signal.. I had an issue where I may have shorted out the PDM module in the door.
I just got mine up running yesterday and all is great now. You may have to enter different codes for your SODL and SODR modules not sure if the ones I used will work for you.
Chuck
Thanks... So pin 20 is a gnd and can be shared between the LED and mirror, I'll splice into pin 20, and add a pin for position 13.
Can you PM your config, I know the SODL/SODR has the VIN encoded in them, that was straight forward ASCII to HEX, so they will be different. I'm interested in your config for the other modules BCM/IPC.
Here are a couple pictures of the wire (gray with black strip) in position 20.
Picture one is the 22 position main connector, picture two is the 6 position connector for the mirror motor.
The good news is that you really only have to fish one wire since you can slice into the pin 20 wire in the mirror itself.
In my attempt to get fancy I took out the existing pin in position 20 and replace with a new pin and also added a pin in position 13 (mirror side).
Read the connector documentation!!! My first attempt without reading the doc resulted in destroying the connector. I had to cut off the existing connector the replace the entire 22 pin connector with new pins. Won't make that mistake again!
Here is the link to connector application spec that shows how to remove the pins.
BTW - the actual pins used by Ford appear to be vendor restricted, meaning TE will only sell to ford, but the one I listed are approved for this connector (confirmed by TE engineering)
My wiring harnesses are 22 awg stranded wire ran through approx 18" of clear heat shrink tubing, that is then run through a protective braid (black). I made sure that there was plenty of extra behind the mirror cap to allow the mirror to telescope without binding.
Taking the mirrors off the truck made the job much easier. No broken clips during the job, just go slow. My second mirror still took almost 2 hours start to finish. The first was a complete train wreck, see my comment above.
While I have found the connector for the mirror, not willing to play ford $25 a piece for the pigtail. Originally I went with the spade connector approach, but then decided to cut them off and just solder and use heat shrink tubing.
While everything appears to be working I noticed when comparing the as-build data between my truck and different trucks that have BLIS, there are differences besides the VIN that in just encoded by ASCII to hex.
Since we don't have a detailed description of each offset, I'm guessing that the radar module is generic part that can be configured / tuned based on the application.
When comparing as-built data from several trucks with factory BLIS, they all have the same values excluding vin information, however mime is different. I'm theorizing that the SODL/SODR modules have an out of the box configuration and we should apply the setting that are consistent from other as-built configs.
@Stoking & Steelhant - Did you update your SODL/SODR modules using IDS or have dealer updated them after adding BLIS.
If I get time today I'll update my to match what I see shipping from the factory.
The IPC, DDM, and PDM changes all appear to be correct and consistent with as-build data from other trucks.
Out of curiosity, what were the part numbers for these pigtails in the mirrors?
Originally Posted by Roly Poly
While I have found the connector for the mirror, not willing to play ford $25 a piece for the pigtail. Originally I went with the spade connector approach, but then decided to cut them off and just solder and use heat shrink tubing.
Out of curiosity, what were the part numbers for these pigtails in the mirrors?
Don't remember the part number but you can find it here. It a two cavity connector. If I find the ones that I cut off the mirrors, I'll post a pic. Either way you'll still have to make the harness that connects the mirror to the 22 pin connector.
BTW - REALLY, REALLY love the BLIS when towing, and the cross traffic alert is very handy in parking lots.
