Missing injectors, could be FICM
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It could be many things, Mark - ceramic capacitors can cause this as can electrolytic caps, mosfets, resistors out of spec, bad electrical connections on good components, bad electrical connections on bad/burnt/damaged components, the list goes on.
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Ed, Idk if this helps, but I just took it out this morning and it did not act up at all. The drive was about 15 - 20mi. Then when I pull in my driveway, it wanted to act up. You can tell, it's about to miss, but then it gets it's act together.
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Mark, are you having the same problem?
Also Mark, I don't think he's going to give you that information, after all, that is what he is in business for. Also, even if the problem is the same as mine, it doesn't mean it is the same exact component on yours that is faulty. I'd suggest sending it into Ed. Nothing comes free in this world. Please don't take advantage of his kindness. However, I do not know your history and if you are a previous customer of his then I apologize.
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Ed and I go way back, he is a good friend! My question relates to a previous conversation we had on logic board failure frequency. Probably unfair of me to request details to be posted though.
(and I have 2 FICMs he has worked on - no issues with either of them).
(and I have 2 FICMs he has worked on - no issues with either of them).
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Like I said, then I most certainly apologize. People like Ed are very rare. And it's good to have someone like him in our corner. And I'm sure you know how some people can be, when they find someone that will help them, they take full advantage without reciprocation. But that is not you and it is my mistake, so again, I apologize.
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Like I said, then I most certainly apologize. People like Ed are very rare. And it's good to have someone like him in our corner. And I'm sure you know how some people can be, when they find someone that will help them, they take full advantage without reciprocation. But that is not you and it is my mistake, so again, I apologize.
Of course it is the case that It would be a bad business decision to give away the secrets that I have learned over the years. I am actually blown away by the fact that I so regularly learn yet another something new about these modules or about electronics in general.
We we are all on this path together. If we can't help each other out, what good are we?
I greatly appreciate the support here and am humbled by what you said about me.
I don't view myself as special.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: The fact that we are viewed as special because we treat others the way we'd want to be treated is a travesty. Be the change that you want to see!
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Thanks for the kind words Ed.
In this case, I was actually trying to help a little with your business (not intending to probe for trade secrets - I do that on the phone)!
Many folks do not believe that the logic side fails. Their solution is to replace the power board w/ a cheap one from a parts store when they have FICM problems.
My recommendation is, as it has been for years - send it to you for a thorough evaluation and repair.
Some do, some don't. However, it would be good to see at least "some" information on frequency and symptoms of logic side problems from a person with some "credentials" in this area. Ford has stated that many times a failure to get FICM sync is a logic board problem. Beyond that and a couple of personal logic board experiences, I know only what I read and what I learn from you.
Interesting stuff anyway!
(and sadly there aren't a lot of folks like you Ed, but I could list a number of regulars here that are!)
In this case, I was actually trying to help a little with your business (not intending to probe for trade secrets - I do that on the phone)!
Many folks do not believe that the logic side fails. Their solution is to replace the power board w/ a cheap one from a parts store when they have FICM problems.
My recommendation is, as it has been for years - send it to you for a thorough evaluation and repair.
Some do, some don't. However, it would be good to see at least "some" information on frequency and symptoms of logic side problems from a person with some "credentials" in this area. Ford has stated that many times a failure to get FICM sync is a logic board problem. Beyond that and a couple of personal logic board experiences, I know only what I read and what I learn from you.
Interesting stuff anyway!
(and sadly there aren't a lot of folks like you Ed, but I could list a number of regulars here that are!)
Last edited by bismic; Mar 12, 2017 at 12:19 PM. Reason: meant to say replaced "power" board (not logic board).
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Thanks for the kind words Ed.
In this case, I was actually trying to help a little with your business (not intending to probe for trade secrets - I do that on the phone)!
Many folks do not believe that the logic side fails. Their solution is to replace the logic board w/ a cheap one from a parts store when they have FICM problems.
My recommendation is, as it has been for years - send it to you for a thorough evaluation and repair.
Some do, some don't. However, it would be good to see at least "some" information on frequency and symptoms of logic side problems from a person with some "credentials" in this area. Ford has stated that many times a failure to get FICM sync is a logic board problem. Beyond that and a couple of personal logic board experiences, I know only what I read and what I learn from you.
Interesting stuff anyway!
(and sadly there aren't a lot of folks like you Ed, but I could list a number of regulars here that are!)
In this case, I was actually trying to help a little with your business (not intending to probe for trade secrets - I do that on the phone)!
Many folks do not believe that the logic side fails. Their solution is to replace the logic board w/ a cheap one from a parts store when they have FICM problems.
My recommendation is, as it has been for years - send it to you for a thorough evaluation and repair.
Some do, some don't. However, it would be good to see at least "some" information on frequency and symptoms of logic side problems from a person with some "credentials" in this area. Ford has stated that many times a failure to get FICM sync is a logic board problem. Beyond that and a couple of personal logic board experiences, I know only what I read and what I learn from you.
Interesting stuff anyway!
(and sadly there aren't a lot of folks like you Ed, but I could list a number of regulars here that are!)
Logic board issues are much more common than people know. Sometimes the low voltage issues that they are seeing are in fact solely caused by the logic board! Nary a week goes by where we don't see yet another example of a module sent into us for repair where someone has changed out the power board from an auto parts store, BulletProofDiesel, or wherever, only to then have to pay a second time to send their unit into us.
Oh, and I wholly agree, Mark - FTE has a long list of truly great people among its members. What we've seen one member do for another should give us all hope!
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Mark is indeed a good friend that I met many years ago now through this forum, John. He always wants to learn and he freely gives that knowledge out to anyone that will listen.
Of course it is the case that It would be a bad business decision to give away the secrets that I have learned over the years. I am actually blown away by the fact that I so regularly learn yet another something new about these modules or about electronics in general.
We we are all on this path together. If we can't help each other out, what good are we?
I greatly appreciate the support here and am humbled by what you said about me.
I don't view myself as special.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: The fact that we are viewed as special because we treat others the way we'd want to be treated is a travesty. Be the change that you want to see!
Of course it is the case that It would be a bad business decision to give away the secrets that I have learned over the years. I am actually blown away by the fact that I so regularly learn yet another something new about these modules or about electronics in general.
We we are all on this path together. If we can't help each other out, what good are we?
I greatly appreciate the support here and am humbled by what you said about me.
I don't view myself as special.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: The fact that we are viewed as special because we treat others the way we'd want to be treated is a travesty. Be the change that you want to see!
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Ed, I apologize for attempting to 'fight your battles' for you, I shouldn't have acted like that, it's just that I'm 38 years old and I remember a time when this world used to be decent. I absolutely loath the world we live in today and anytime I find someone who is 'special', I want to keep it and try to hold onto it. Idc if people see this as corny or whatever, b/c like you said Ed, it is a travesty. It is a rare thing and there are no words for what it is, travesty does not even touch it. It's all about money today, it's all people care about and it makes me sick. Idk if the world was always like this and now that I'm older, my eyes are opened to it, but it is not a world I enjoy living in. I have grown to dislike people. And that really sucks. I am sorry if this post is inappropriate for this thread, mods delete if you must. Just a little explanation of where that came from (Mark, Ed).
Never fear, The world hasn't been COMPLELELY over-run with entitled, self-centered people. Honor, integrity, and dignity are all traits that still exist, even if you have to look a bit further sometimes.
Keep up the fight! Be the change that you want to see!
Ed
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John! There is absolutely no need to apologize at all! I so appreciate the heart behind what you we're working to do and so appreciate that you DID act like that. Don't back down! Never give up!
Never fear, The world hasn't been COMPLELELY over-run with entitled, self-centered people. Honor, integrity, and dignity are all traits that still exist, even if you have to look a bit further sometimes.
Keep up the fight! Be the change that you want to see!
Ed
Never fear, The world hasn't been COMPLELELY over-run with entitled, self-centered people. Honor, integrity, and dignity are all traits that still exist, even if you have to look a bit further sometimes.
Keep up the fight! Be the change that you want to see!
Ed
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If you are plowing, though, I'd consider our Leece Neville 230 amp alternator.
Ed