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Check your receipt on that Alt -- I blew past that, but if you had asked for the top Alt of a two Alt set-up, it would be a 140A, a stock single Alt was just 110A, but there was a factory upgrade to the 140 (which we did, since we ordered our truck). You hot wire out of the Alt is in a different position than my 140A, so you may have gotten the 110A, unfortunately. I believe 140A is the minimum these trucks should have. Ford changed to the 140 as stock "small" Alt in '08, btw...
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When you change screens in Torque it will stop updating the gauges on the other screen, i.e.: it is only updating the screen you have up. You can set up a gauge set for logging data which, once you start it, is great for all those other gauges on other screens, or say if you are chasing a particular problem.
You can also set alarms on these gauges...
btw, I thought your Note 7 comment was pretty funny
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I like those gauges the most too. Especially on a cold start. Thanks for the tips again. I will look into getting a bigger alt. It has been fine so far and I don't run many accessories.
Note 7, best emerg block heater 2016. Only thing that sucks is it is single use.
Note 7, best emerg block heater 2016. Only thing that sucks is it is single use.
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I did some cabling upgrades on my Alt and between batts that had impressive results, thanks to a guy on here that goes to beyond the beyond looking for answers to our truck's problems. His name is Jack or TooManyToys -- if you look at his battery cable upgrade thread in the tech section, well let's just say it is quite an education.
So besides the bigger Alt, you can put on an overdrive pulley that helps mainly at idle or lower rpm. Depending on your budget, you could also consider a really nice alternator from Leece Neville - most choose their 230A.
Jack and some others here are chasing down changing our starters for either a 6.4 one or 6.7, so stay tuned -- it may really help with the critical voltage drops we see on cold starts.
btw: there is a cool transmission pan/filter update that is cheap and easy, to the 6.4 pan and filter. You go from only filtering a potential max of 10% of the trans fluid (and that is only if the trans is warm enough), to 100% filtration whenever the truck is running. Maybe I already mentioned that....
So besides the bigger Alt, you can put on an overdrive pulley that helps mainly at idle or lower rpm. Depending on your budget, you could also consider a really nice alternator from Leece Neville - most choose their 230A.
Jack and some others here are chasing down changing our starters for either a 6.4 one or 6.7, so stay tuned -- it may really help with the critical voltage drops we see on cold starts.
btw: there is a cool transmission pan/filter update that is cheap and easy, to the 6.4 pan and filter. You go from only filtering a potential max of 10% of the trans fluid (and that is only if the trans is warm enough), to 100% filtration whenever the truck is running. Maybe I already mentioned that....
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I had watched the video. And just to get it in the open, I HATE WIRING, but I considered the Leece Neville you spoke of. That starter swap would be great for me, especially up here in ND.
Worth doing a transmission flush then swapping to the 6.4 pan?
Also coolant heater, headache? Worth it for extreme cold?
Worth doing a transmission flush then swapping to the 6.4 pan?
Also coolant heater, headache? Worth it for extreme cold?
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I had watched the video. And just to get it in the open, I HATE WIRING, but I considered the Leece Neville you spoke of. That starter swap would be great for me, especially up here in ND.
Worth doing a transmission flush then swapping to the 6.4 pan?
Also coolant heater, headache? Worth it for extreme cold?
Worth doing a transmission flush then swapping to the 6.4 pan?
Also coolant heater, headache? Worth it for extreme cold?
Q #2: Are talking about adding a block heater? or additional coolant heating to that? You might have a block heater and just need to find the cord. I'll go fetch a link to an add-on oil heater -- if I was going to heat something it'd be that...
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Take a look at this:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post16676966
If you look a couple posts up you'll see what they look like installed...
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post16676966
If you look a couple posts up you'll see what they look like installed...
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A #1: I took a sample about 10 months ago, fluid looked red and healthy, no particulates. She got regular servicing and had never been in an accident (until I bumped into a minivan). Had new injectors 3 years ago.
A #2: I use the block heater. A coolant heater, pumps the coolant, heats it. Cold winter day, get in your truck and its already got hot air. Oil pan heater was another consideration of mine over the coolant heater.
Ahhhh, the orange pads, I have seen those before. I don't know how I feel about them having to be on the outside of the pan.
A #2: I use the block heater. A coolant heater, pumps the coolant, heats it. Cold winter day, get in your truck and its already got hot air. Oil pan heater was another consideration of mine over the coolant heater.
Ahhhh, the orange pads, I have seen those before. I don't know how I feel about them having to be on the outside of the pan.
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So, we know you need a coolant thermostat -- if you've considered adding a coolant filter you could do that now since you have to drain down the coolant some anyway for either.
Based on your trans history, I'd just do the pan/filter update and 9qts of Mercon LV back in. Part numbers are: Pan: 8C3Z-7A194-B, and Filter: 8C3Z-7A098-D. You can continue using or ditch the front filter after you do this (as in take the filter out and just put an o-ring on and close it up forevermore, or just leave whatever is there, there -- it is a bypass filter).
Based on your temps even with a bad stat, you might be looking at an oil cooler replacement. So let's get the stat in there 1st and re-check, because if it needs an oil cooler you'll be flushing the cooling system too...
How are your voltages? FICM in particular...
Based on your trans history, I'd just do the pan/filter update and 9qts of Mercon LV back in. Part numbers are: Pan: 8C3Z-7A194-B, and Filter: 8C3Z-7A098-D. You can continue using or ditch the front filter after you do this (as in take the filter out and just put an o-ring on and close it up forevermore, or just leave whatever is there, there -- it is a bypass filter).
Based on your temps even with a bad stat, you might be looking at an oil cooler replacement. So let's get the stat in there 1st and re-check, because if it needs an oil cooler you'll be flushing the cooling system too...
How are your voltages? FICM in particular...
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Voltages as follows:
FVP: 13.5
FMP: 47.5
FLP: 13.5
Batt: 13.8
All values have minor fluctuations.
Ok, so thermostat, need to drain coolant? Where is it? Difficult to change?
Oil cooler, drain oil, drop pan? OEM or Bulletproofed oilcooler?
Confirmed alt is a 110.
FVP: 13.5
FMP: 47.5
FLP: 13.5
Batt: 13.8
All values have minor fluctuations.
Ok, so thermostat, need to drain coolant? Where is it? Difficult to change?
Oil cooler, drain oil, drop pan? OEM or Bulletproofed oilcooler?
Confirmed alt is a 110.
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Ok, did my thermostat today and took her out on the highway after a brief warmup and leak check period here the numbers I have now with an ambient temp of 48F
Coolant: Maxed @ 192.2F, would flux down to 188.4F.
Oil: Maxed @ 208.4F and settled back down to 193F while on idle cooldown.
I'm thinking oil cooler, next?
Any recommendation for brakes? Looking at Powerstop or EBC.
Coolant: Maxed @ 192.2F, would flux down to 188.4F.
Oil: Maxed @ 208.4F and settled back down to 193F while on idle cooldown.
I'm thinking oil cooler, next?
Any recommendation for brakes? Looking at Powerstop or EBC.
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