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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 07:35 PM
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Budget 429 race engine.

So just like the title reads I'm going to be building up my thunder jet into a very budget minded build. With D0VE-C heads and flat top Pistons a .060" overbore what kind of compression would it be running? I'm thinking something along these lines.
Flat tops
Mechanical flat tappet cam
Home ported D0VE heads
Maybe larger valves, maybe not but definitely better valve springs
Big fenderwell headers ( maybe home built)
RPM air gap intake
Big carb thinking 750-850 double pumper
Recurve dizzy
This engine has very few miles since its rebuild and going to try and build it without going to a builder. It's going into a 79 F150 mud truck. This truck will see 0 street duty just straight line mud racing. The class I'm going into will have trucks running close to 800hp or better so I'm going to get my butt handed to me. I just want to get my foot into the door and be able to have a little fun. If you guys have any ideas or opinions that would be great. Thanks.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 07:06 PM
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Also I don't care if it barely idles and has no vacume as long as it screams around 6000rpm. But my main concern is what compression ratio it will have with these heads and flat tops. Factory is around 11:1 so I'm thinking 13:1 ish? I'd actually prefer to run it on race fuel. Any ideas??
 
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 09:18 PM
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Race fuel should help for sure. Rods would be a concern for me, especially with heavier (forged) pistons. I would want forged over 12:1.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bodabdan
Race fuel should help for sure. Rods would be a concern for me, especially with heavier (forged) pistons. I would want forged over 12:1.
Yes that's a good point. I was just going to use the stocks rods being its prolly going to be well under 500hp. Maybe I'll go crazy and get some ARP studs for them. Thanks for your input.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2016 | 09:30 PM
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Not sure budget and BBF go togather in the same sentence. It is really easy to sink $2k in a stock rebuild. Let alone adding any performance goodies.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2016 | 08:58 AM
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the biggest things you can do is swap in a 460 crank and swap in some steep,steep gears.find whatever you can that's close to 5.50 - 6.0 or so.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2016 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by FORDF250HDXLT
the biggest things you can do is swap in a 460 crank and swap in some steep,steep gears.find whatever you can that's close to 5.50 - 6.0 or so.
Are the cranks a direct swap? Can I leave the 429 rods and Pistons? It came with a comp cams Exteme marine cam and valve springs so I'll prolly throw that in and port the exhaust side of the heads and run it as is.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2016 | 11:57 AM
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pistons too.i just noticed it's recently already been reman.why start with this engine then? the 429 and 460 blocks are the same.i would sell the reman 429 to someone who wants it.since your already going to bore and reman an engine,you should start with a 460 in need of a reman.you'll be $ ahead.
for mud running,you really want all the grunt you can get.you should look into stroke kits and reman a 460.sell the quicker revving 429 to someone with a car or a sports/street truck.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2016 | 12:16 PM
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pistons too.i just noticed it's recently already been reman.why start with this engine then? the 429 and 460 blocks are the same.i would sell the reman 429 to someone who wants it.since your already going to bore and reman an engine,you should start with a 460 in need of a reman.you'll be $ ahead.
for mud running,you really want all the grunt you can get.you should look into stroke kits and reman a 460.sell the quicker revving 429 to someone with a car or a sports/street truck.
Yes a 460 would be nice and if I can find one for cheap enough maybe. But this engine runs good and I already have it. Just want to get something in there for cheap to get my foot in the door. And if we really like doing it than yes a stoker definitely would be on the table and maybe some P51 heads too.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2016 | 05:07 PM
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Your buying pistons anyways so just find a 460 crank and get the extra cubes. The valve train will take some thought and investigating to get the right length push rod to get the geometry right & you may have to mill some off the rocker stands to get things right. Check retainer to guide clearance, you probably will need to cut the guides down some. You will have cut the spring pads for seat cups. A solid cam requires a double valve spring. Since you are just going to lean on this engine I'd consider bigger valves too.
 
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