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The Pacifier
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From: Cloverdale, BC
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I haven't seen a Banks power pack yet. The air to air is bigger and flows better, and the exhaust sounds AWESOME
Not sure of the price though, but I think it is well worth it considering the gains WITH the propane injection and nitrous.
I'm not changing the turbo or the injectors though, as it has already been done.
Not sure of the price though, but I think it is well worth it considering the gains WITH the propane injection and nitrous.
I'm not changing the turbo or the injectors though, as it has already been done.
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Post Fiend
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From: Neenah, Wisconsin
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yeah yeah pro.....we know you want your gas motor. Unfourtunetly joe pro had to have his gas motor....against the wishes of the rest of us. SO your still able to make a different change if you wish.
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From: Roseburg OR.
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Rockwells front and rear! Both steering axles, if the rear can be without running on the wrong side of the gear, otherwise a non steer in the back. Looking for mondo strength.
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I think about 1200 for the steering axle and 900 for non?? Just a guess. Ask Pro he's the Rockwell guy
Oh and the gasser wasn't against my wishes. I have a PSD and for mudruning (which is what I envision) it aint the hot ticket. You need to be able to turn rpm's for lots of tire speed. I love my PSD I just don't think it would do great trying to sling gumbo
Maybe do ok with a good auto but we had the 6 and you can't shift it fast enough and keep the turbo spooled up. You wouldn't get anywhere IMHO.
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I think about 1200 for the steering axle and 900 for non?? Just a guess. Ask Pro he's the Rockwell guy
Oh and the gasser wasn't against my wishes. I have a PSD and for mudruning (which is what I envision) it aint the hot ticket. You need to be able to turn rpm's for lots of tire speed. I love my PSD I just don't think it would do great trying to sling gumbo
Maybe do ok with a good auto but we had the 6 and you can't shift it fast enough and keep the turbo spooled up. You wouldn't get anywhere IMHO.
Last edited by RRMike; Aug 20, 2003 at 03:19 AM.
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From: Roseburg OR.
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I think it would. Can you imagine driving into a big ole 4' deep sippy hole and spinning the tires so slowly that you could still read the writing on the sidewalls? They wouldn't clean out at all and you would just sit unless it was really flat or downhill. Trying to drive uphill with gummed up mudballs don't work too good in my experience.
I had a Toyota scrapper with some 33's and it wouldn't go hardly at all in sticky clay because it didn't have enough power to spin the tires in any gear except 4lo-1st. They wouldn't clean at all and pretty quick they were about 37" tall and I was stuck.
Just my own experiences. Maybe others disagree. That's fine.
I had a Toyota scrapper with some 33's and it wouldn't go hardly at all in sticky clay because it didn't have enough power to spin the tires in any gear except 4lo-1st. They wouldn't clean at all and pretty quick they were about 37" tall and I was stuck.
Just my own experiences. Maybe others disagree. That's fine.
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From: Oregon
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God bless you Mike. Yea, with that lift and tires this HAS to be a mudder, therefore my choice of engine. But hey, at least I picked an injected & blown gas motor. Natural aspiration is for weenies 
Oh, and horses count in deep mud. I don't care how agressive your tires are you need spin to clean them, and deep mud EATS horsepower. I'm thinking @900 hp should be adequate for the Rockwells and big meats...there is a method to my madness ya know
Oh, and horses count in deep mud. I don't care how agressive your tires are you need spin to clean them, and deep mud EATS horsepower. I'm thinking @900 hp should be adequate for the Rockwells and big meats...there is a method to my madness ya know
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From: Southeastern PA
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How about these tires (14.00R20) on 20" military beadlocks. Estimated price for both: around $6000, not really sure though.
Last edited by No_BS; Aug 20, 2003 at 04:22 PM.
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From: Coutts Canada
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Those be them michillans, but those the small ones, look on the the site and they have much bigger 56 inchers.
without detriots in them rockwells (they better be front and rear steer with this beast) we ain't goin nowhere in the mud (bout $1500 i think but only estimate) And we are goin deep fry them winches with this beast of a truck, better upgrade and make them the hydralic pto kind that lift 25,000 lbs. and you better have them both front and rear(at least $5000). Cause you never when you are going to have to do a near vertical lift and mud can hold onto a truck like a suction cup (we had a dodge diseal get stuck during hunting, took a 260hp 4wd tractor to get him out)
these be just suggestions though cause i have already made my contribution (hint hint)
without detriots in them rockwells (they better be front and rear steer with this beast) we ain't goin nowhere in the mud (bout $1500 i think but only estimate) And we are goin deep fry them winches with this beast of a truck, better upgrade and make them the hydralic pto kind that lift 25,000 lbs. and you better have them both front and rear(at least $5000). Cause you never when you are going to have to do a near vertical lift and mud can hold onto a truck like a suction cup (we had a dodge diseal get stuck during hunting, took a 260hp 4wd tractor to get him out)
these be just suggestions though cause i have already made my contribution (hint hint)
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From: Bashaw, Alberta
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Do you guys think that our 18 inch springs are going to be like welding a piece of square tubing between the axle and frame for ride quality becuase I do. I think maybe we should go with something smaller in lift size and just do fender trimming to fith the tires.
Last edited by fordmudrunner2020; Aug 21, 2003 at 11:27 PM.
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From: Bashaw, Alberta
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If we are building something for the multipurpose wheeler we need to have some suspension articulation not some huge tall monster that when it hits a rut or tries to climb over a car it flips. We might have to come up with some self righting mechanisim to flip us back on our wheels when the wind blows or if we try to do some climbing. I don't think we are building a truck that sits on a trailer and drives off to be parked in a truck show all the time.