V10 Failures
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if they do, it comes at the price of admitting they were wrong for all those years, and that they should have never back-spec'd the ones that they did.
I'm a cynic ..... I just don't see it happening.
slightly
... but I was actually just talking to my boss this morning about this very thing. we have a stretch of road that needs to be replaced, it's total junk and not worth putting another dime into. but the design life is 40 years, and the road is less than 20 years old. so the obvious solution is to overlay it (put a skin graft over the band-aids already on it) to get it closer to the design life so that the surfacing office doesn't have to admit that their design was a failure (because they tried to cheap out and save money 20 years ago).this stuff happens all the time in every facet of life.
if it requires, insinuates, or could be construed as an admission of being wrong, they won't do it.
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I see tons of these V10-powered fleet trucks in my area, 450's, 550's, typically bucket trucks for cable company, phone company, etc. Years back I talked to a cable guy who had one, his had 310k miles on it. He said they loved them because it was a torque-rich engine that was nearly bulletproof and cost less to buy and operate then a diesel.
Hopefully this issue is resolved quickly.
Hopefully this issue is resolved quickly.
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I just read through the entire thread as this is very interesting and extremely disturbing! I did see the comment a while back in here asking what kind of oil filter is used and I didn't see an answer. My reason for asking is my truck ('99 V10) threw a main bearing as a supposed result of using fram oil filters. Apparently the fram filters didn't have good oil flow, or something to the effect of them not being able to have good oil flow for the first second or 2 of running. The guy I bought it from rebuilt it himself, and explained it to me this way, when you start it up, she pops right away, unlike an older carburated engine where it cranks for a few seconds, and that fram filter could not get the oil where it needed to go right away for some reason. Could this possibly be causing this type of consistent failure??
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Maybe the crappy Fram orange can, the "OCOD" or whatever their lowest cost POS used to be. The higher end Tough Guard and Ultra Guard filters are fairly well regarded now. But I use Motorcraft only in my Fords since my car is still under warranty and the 6.0 is....... special
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So I just finished a bid for one of our customers (large international oil company) and the trucks being replaced are 2008-2013 F-550 V10's. They will be buying new 2017 F-550 V10's. The mechanics asked the truck dealer if there had been any updates with the V10 as a number of these trucks have lost engines due to oiling issues. As far as I know there are no changes to the V10 for 2017. I don't have the paperwork in front of me right now, but they mentioned cylinder number 9 as a main failure point on multiple units and that so far a fix they have found is installing a high idle at 1,300 RPM. Now these trucks idle A LOT! and in temps that can hit -60F ambient.
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2016 V10 specs 362 HP and 457 TQ
2017 V10 specs 288 HP and 424 TQ
Per Ford's published specs.
Here is direct quotes from the paperwork I was given by my customer.
The number 9 cylinder on the V10 has habitual oil problems in the rocker arm/push rod area, this scores the needle bearings and causes rocker arm failure. The pieces and parts fall down into the cylinder valves and ultimately destroy the engine. One truck alone has had 3 engine replacements in the last 2 years due to this issue. Multiple trucks have had engine replacements due to this same issue.
If we do not have a different gasoline engine option available we will need to install a high idle feature, set at 1,500RPM for the V10 that engages immediately when the truck is placed in Park
If we do not have a different gasoline engine option available we will need to install a high idle feature, set at 1,500RPM for the V10 that engages immediately when the truck is placed in Park
This came right off the paperwork I was given, I'm just passing it along I don't have any more info then what I posted.