You need to post more stuff about suing Ford.

 

That is a staggering number of similar failures on the same year of truck! I would think that if this was a common problem for the 13's it would be a more common topic on this site? (Although it's possible I've completely messed it).
How exactly are these fleet trucks used and are they all doing the same job? And what exactly is your maintenance standards?

Something isn't right and I'm curious as to what it is....

 

Double post.

 

This is bad news.Any more failures to report?

 

With a reported total of 38 engine failures out of 48 trucks that are only two years old, with only 25K-57K miles, naturally we would like to know more.

What kind of rocker failure? Was the roller worn and wiggling loose within the rocker? Did the rocker fall out? Was the lifter frozen? Did a piston tag a valve that stuck open due to the rocker failure? Push rod bend?

 

Also, what oil filter?

 

Never heard of so many V10 failures with such low miles. Mighty strange.

 

I work with a few companies which have roughly 60 2013 V10s that we completed for them, I'm going to ask what if any failures they are seeing as they have plenty of 2011-2016 V10's. I have heard nothing like this and they work these trucks in the worst conditions possible.

 

Subd.........

 

Being that these are high idle situations...Utility bucket trucks, that is what they are saying may be the cause. The strange thing is... my 2011's have not seen this level of failure. The only thing I have noticed on them is, Front pump cover seals leaking on the trans and replacing torque converters... and that's at 100k. That seems it may be a cooling issue.

As for engine maintenance, we have switched to a 200 hour PM schedule, that we have been pretty religious with by tracking them through logs, GPS and our FMC.

 

Being bucket trucks, is it possible they are being placed on slopes where the engines could loose oil, or the oil pick up tube may be above the oil level from the trucks sitting on a hill?

 

This is interesting as all the newer Ford bucket trucks around me for Verizon and Time Warner seem to be V10's. Wonder how they are fairing.

 

Who is "they"? Ford Fleet? So then did you get a hold of the person you were seeking in your effort to escalate? And are you now getting the help you need afterall? Please follow up on this, because it would help others to not only better understand the reliability of the V10 in a cab chassis, but also gauge the response of the manufacturer... especially when presented with a situation such as you described.

A bucket truck was at my house this evening. 2013 Ford F-450 V10, CA was 120" I think. An important detail because of the type of Altec bucket the truck was equipped with. There was NO elevated idle at all. That is because the V10 was shut off during bucket operation. A separate dedicated (and very quiet) small gas engine operated the hydraulic pump.

I own a V10, so I'm very familiar with their unique sound, and could hear the difference in engines. The photo attached isn't the specific truck that came to my house (it was too dark to take a photo) but this photo on flicker very closely approximates the type of Altec bucket and supplementary power unit mounted directly behind the cab that powered the bucket.

Very efficient unit. The secondary engine was only on for 2 or 3 minutes. Altec has hybrid electric units as well, and I'm not sure if this truck's secondary engine was a generator that powered an electric hydraulic pump, or what, but from a customer point of view, the service was silent. When the guy was done, the V10 fired up, and he sped away into the night.






What was your interval before?

 

yes, Ford Fleet.

I have changed my service intervals per their request to 200 hours from 3000-5000 mile intervals. Since this is an extreme application, we do not use the EOLM built in.

My concern is that I have nowhere near the frequency of these failures in the exact same spec'd units from 2011.

My average mileage on the 11's is 110000.

BTW, there may be a possible #39 as of this AM.

I am finally getting offline feedback from other utility companies, rental houses and my larger BPN dealerships that these issues are beginning to surface in other fleets.

I will keep everyone posted.

Happy Thanksgiving To All!!!

 

the upfitters guide programs them to around 1200 RPM with the parking brake and PTO or Aux switch engaged. Altec is an approved upfitter and this should be happening in their units. I know that all of mine, from a different upfitter are bumping up.