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Oct 23, 2015 | 07:14 PM

#16

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Originally Posted by bismic

At some point Jonathon, please load test the batteries individually!

Were you asking for IPR % Duty Cycle above? If so,

Injector Pressure Regulator
Short Name: IPR
PID: 221434
Units: %
Max/Min: 100.0/0.0
Equation: A*0.39063

Edit ......................................

Also (a premature guess) - if your batteries are OK and you are getting the proper rpm when cranking, then I am leaning towards a cam or crank sensor (due to the 0 inj. pulse width). Posting the requested info above should point us in the right direction.

FUEL PW (fuel pulse width) - Pulse width defaults to 0 w/o CKP signal, RPM below minimum spec, or low ICP, or bad CMP signal.

I was just searching online for the Cam/Crank Sync Pid... what I have found is that its the same as the FICM Sync Pid which doesn't seem right.. I'm going to let the batteries charge up to 100 % tonight.. the batteries are just over a year old... here in Vegas I haven't had a set of batteries last more than 1 1/2 years. Ever since the last FICM failure I have upgraded the Alternator to a 200amp plus I am extremely **** on volts and watch the batteries like a hawk.. Thanks again Mark for your help!

Oct 23, 2015 | 07:18 PM

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I posted the Cam/Crank entry (custom PID) - it differs slightly from the FICM sync (equation is different - A:1 vs A:0). I am not sure I understand your question.

Oct 23, 2015 | 07:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bismic

I posted the Cam/Crank entry (custom PID) - it differs slightly from the FICM sync (equation is different - A:1 vs A:0). I am not sure I understand your question.

Sorry Mark.. this is what I have for the FICM Sync,

PID: 2209cd
long name- FICM Sync
short name-FICM Sync
min value-0.0
max value-1.0
scale factor-x1
unit type-sync
equation-{A:1}
odb header-7E0

And for the Cam/ Crank Sync i have what you posted,
Cam/Crank Sync
Min Value: 0
Max Value: 1
Scales Factor: X1
Unit Type:
Equation {A:1}
Unit header
7E0

I am looking for the PID or ODBII Mode for the Cam/Crank sync (its 2209cd for the FICM).. maybe it's supposed to be blank?

Thanks again Mark!

Oct 23, 2015 | 07:44 PM

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For a custom PID, you don't need a PID number.

From what I understand, the FICM sync is A:0 in the equation. The Cam/Crank sync is A:1

EDIT -

information corrected below.

Oct 23, 2015 | 07:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bismic

For a custom PID, you don't need a PID number.

From what I understand, the FICM sync is A:0 in the equation. The Cam/Crank sync is A:1

ahh.. ok!! Thanks Mark! I'll probably try again in the morning.. I'll post the results.

Oct 23, 2015 | 08:20 PM

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Looking up PID 2209cd, it looks like that really is the cam/crank sync, so you need to enter the FICM sync PID. I will verify this tonight!

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ew-gauges.html

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...t-no-clue.html

I will check on your readings tomorrow.

Oct 23, 2015 | 08:45 PM

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Well, post #16 (from Double4LinkDiesel) below says that PID 2290cd is actually FICM Sync and it should be A:1.

So changing the equation to A:0 will yield Cam/Crank Sync.

I think that is official because Double4LinkDiesel sounds like he is a "developer" for the TorquePro.

Sorry for the confusion - there are way too many erroneous posts on this topic!!!

Oct 23, 2015 | 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bismic

hahaha.. yes.. just updated the equations!!! I really like the Torque Pro app, I've been using it for over 3 years now. I am reading many posts about cold no start issues and it seems everyone has at least one fault code. I have none... very weird. I just checked on my batteries and it seems the drivers side battery is taking a very long time to charge, it took over 2 hours to go from 64% to 72% on a 15amp charger. the passenger side charged from 61% to 100% in about 2 hours.

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Oct 24, 2015 | 10:28 AM

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Ok.. this is what the results are while cranking..

IPR% 83.9
RPM 167.2
InjPW 0.0
FICM Sync 1.0
CAM/Crank Sync 1.0
FICM 47.5

I am charging the batteries again to keep them topped up.. let me know if you need any other readings.. thank you!!

Oct 24, 2015 | 10:34 AM

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I'm missing the HPOP and ICP volts... I'll let the batteries charge a few then report back

Oct 24, 2015 | 10:55 AM

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Ok.. did another crank with all parameters this time.. I hope.. haha

IPR% 83.9
RPM 172.2
InjPW 0.0
FICM Sync 1.0
CAM/Crank Sync 1.0
FICM 47.5
HPOP 246.2
ICP Volts 0.5

I'm thinking this isn't a good sign....

Oct 24, 2015 | 11:03 AM

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Looking like you have a high pressure oil leak or your HPOP has bit the dust. I would lean towards the HPOP.

Oct 24, 2015 | 11:09 AM

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What is strange is that yesterday the HPOP was reading over 900 psi while cranking... could warn batteries cause this? I haven't had them checked yet but they aren't holding charge very well I noticed today... I only got a 4, 20 second cranks before the rpm's started to go down.. now the batteries are at 70% according to my charger. They were at 100% when I started this morning.

Oct 24, 2015 | 11:26 AM

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I agree that 900 psig should have been enough, but that number was a mystery. The 0.8 volts correlates to less than 500 psig. I believe that the PCM would have prevented the start at 0.8 volts (thus the 0 fpw value).

Weak batteries can certainly cause a variety of issues. I will always recommend correcting a battery issue before proceeding any further with troubleshooting.