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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 04:01 PM
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Hope that everyone is ok. Looks to me like new front bumper, rim and alignment maybe some additional work for the axle but does not look that bad to me.
Crawling underneath. The axle is bent ,tie rod curved, other components are bent, frame could be bent or twisted. We will see next week.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 06:18 PM
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Is the radius arm bent?

Have you taken any photos of the damage underneath that you care to share?

I've often wondered if the Super Duty could benefit from the triangles that Ford mounted to the frame of the F-150 to prevent front tire encroachment into the cab foot well in offset head on collisions such as what you just experienced.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 06:31 PM
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No I don’t as truck is in a locked lot awaiting the adjuster. Can’t get at it until adjuster comes. I forgot to unplug the Verizon hum module. Have several things to get from truck. Hum notified wife I was in accident before I could call her. Nice system
 
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 08:16 PM
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Photo's of the new to us F350 King Ranch with the 2020 1062 Lance Camper...






 
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Old Sep 29, 2019 | 09:55 AM
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Nice setup! How long is your extension to pull your boat?
 
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Old Sep 29, 2019 | 11:44 AM
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I have two extension bars. One is a 28" for a 2" receiver. The second is a 34" for 2 1/2" receiver. Both started out as factory bars from Curt. Then I had them "tweaked" and beefed up by a local farm/logging/heavy equipment steel fabrication shop. I think the shop added a 1/2 ton of weight to both of them. Almost takes two people to install them when trying to align the pins. My wife turns blue in the face when helping me.
Been hauling horse trailers, boat trailers, hay trailers and utility trailers with the 2" for a lot of years. The 2 1/2" is a more recent addition for the F350 since I was able to remove the 2" adapter from it.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2019 | 11:57 AM
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Good looking setup Jim!
 
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Old Sep 29, 2019 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Seabiscuit-P3
I have two extension bars. One is a 28" for a 2" receiver. The second is a 34" for 2 1/2" receiver. Both started out as factory bars from Curt. Then I had them "tweaked" and beefed up by a local farm/logging/heavy equipment steel fabrication shop. I think the shop added a 1/2 ton of weight to both of them. Almost takes two people to install them when trying to align the pins. My wife turns blue in the face when helping me.
Been hauling horse trailers, boat trailers, hay trailers and utility trailers with the 2" for a lot of years. The 2 1/2" is a more recent addition for the F350 since I was able to remove the 2" adapter from it.
Yea, I gave mine away when I sold my truck camper, I built and used it for years pulling as much as 10k trailer behind me.

Now I am buying another TC and am going to need one. Torklift has them at $400+, gonna check Curt since you mentioned it. Sadly I closed my welding shop and sold all my equip, too old for my eyes anymore but sure miss it...
 
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Old Sep 29, 2019 | 02:28 PM
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rBetween the cost of the Curt Bar and what I paid the welding shop I've got about $250/$275 into the 2", but only about $175 into the 2 1/2". And...the powder coat the finished product so that you almost need an unmodified to see the differences. The shop does give a 10% military discount. Don't remember what the original Curt bar cost. The last one for the dually was $125. Don't you have to buy the Torklift receiver hitch at $650 +/- to fit their bar at an additional $525?

The Curt extension does come in 2 1/2 on the receiver (pickup) end and sized down to 2" on the business end. So if your F450 is coming with a factory 2 1/2" receiver, you may be all set and not need much or any type of modification. On this last one, I think all they did was weld some reinforcement bars to the inside to support both the bar and the 8" extension.

One note would be that with the overhang of our Lance 1062, as mentioned, they did add 8" to the bar so that the ball clears the back bumper of the camper. Something that may or may not be needed with your Host. With out it, the boat trailer's surge brake master cylinder will not clear the bottom of the camper. If I load the camper with the bar already in place, I have to jack the camper up and extra few inches for the hitch to clear the camper bumper. It's simpler to put the bar and hitch on before loading the camper. It's a PIA to crawl under there and bench press the bar into place after the camper is on.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2019 | 04:30 PM
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rBetween the cost of the Curt Bar and what I paid the welding shop I've got about $250/$275 into the 2", but only about $175 into the 2 1/2". And...the powder coat the finished product so that you almost need an unmodified to see the differences. The shop does give a 10% military discount. Don't remember what the original Curt bar cost. The last one for the dually was $125. Don't you have to buy the Torklift receiver hitch at $650 +/- to fit their bar at an additional $525?

The Curt extension does come in 2 1/2 on the receiver (pickup) end and sized down to 2" on the business end. So if your F450 is coming with a factory 2 1/2" receiver, you may be all set and not need much or any type of modification. On this last one, I think all they did was weld some reinforcement bars to the inside to support both the bar and the 8" extension.

One note would be that with the overhang of our Lance 1062, as mentioned, they did add 8" to the bar so that the ball clears the back bumper of the camper. Something that may or may not be needed with your Host. With out it, the boat trailer's surge brake master cylinder will not clear the bottom of the camper. If I load the camper with the bar already in place, I have to jack the camper up and extra few inches for the hitch to clear the camper bumper. It's simpler to put the bar and hitch on before loading the camper. It's a PIA to crawl under there and bench press the bar into place after the camper is on.
Dunno how far out the overhand is on the HOST Mammoth, but the good news is no back door, the door is on the side, my Arctic Fox 1150 had a back door and which I was hitched up it was a mess to get in/out.

My new 450 will have the 3 in receiver and Torklift sells that in 3 different lengths, 32, 36, 43 IIRC. OR I may have a welding shop build me one out of 3 in square. I finally said the hell with it and bought a 3" hitch, NOT cheap and I got it used on E Trailer.

Always something to take money out of a pocket!
 
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Old Sep 29, 2019 | 08:23 PM
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Just upgraded from our 2015 F350 CCLB SRW to this new 2019 F350 CCLB DRW. Should carry our truck camper much better than the older truck!
 
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 02:20 PM
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Just upgraded from our 2015 F350 CCLB SRW to this new 2019 F350 CCLB DRW. Should carry our truck camper much better than the older truck!

Nice looking truck...ought to work great hauling a slide in.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Seabiscuit-P3
I have two extension bars. One is a 28" for a 2" receiver. The second is a 34" for 2 1/2" receiver. Both started out as factory bars from Curt. Then I had them "tweaked" and beefed up by a local farm/logging/heavy equipment steel fabrication shop. I think the shop added a 1/2 ton of weight to both of them. Almost takes two people to install them when trying to align the pins. My wife turns blue in the face when helping me.
Been hauling horse trailers, boat trailers, hay trailers and utility trailers with the 2" for a lot of years. The 2 1/2" is a more recent addition for the F350 since I was able to remove the 2" adapter from it.
Don't let this happen to you...I hate the extension bars:

 
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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 03:03 PM
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WHOA.....Stop the presses. It happened AGAIN?

Check this photo out:



Exact same situation. Same Okanagan truck camper. Same utility trailer.

But DIFFERENT Ford dually truck. The photo up top shows an ALL WHITE monochromatic crew cab dually.

And the photo below shows a TWO TONE crew cab dually with a bottom tan accent color.

And before accusing finesse with photoshop, note that the top photo is an F-450 with 19.5" wheels and tires, while the bottom photo is of an F-350 with 16" wheels and tires.

The background surroundings are significantly different as well.

But the Ford frames are not. In this era, the Ford frame between an F-350 and an F-450 pickup are the same, especially in the area of failure.

Given the extreme improbability that two different people would have the EXACT same utility trailer (notice the unique aspects of that utility trailer... roadside man door, dark colored pressure equalization vent, unusual trailer tongue ground effects skirting) combined with the exact same Okanagan truck camper (notice the mirrored window tinting, the double vented refrigerator, the decal color and location, the same camper jacks, and the same metal trim under the roadside compartment at the tailgate)... what we have here appears to be an expensive lesson that didn't get learned the first time.

What is it called when a person repeats the same thing, expecting different results?

Perhaps he thought he was "upgrading" with the F-450 over the previous F-350. But that upgrade only involved brakes and axles... not the frame. Clearly, something wasn't working with his load. I suspect excessive weight aft of axle.

Does anyone know more about this fella and his repeated catastrophe?
 
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And don't forget the same bumper sticker on the top center of the slide out. Not to mention the fact that the pickups DO NOT HAVE an extension bar on them.

These photo's have been making their rounds on the RV forums and have been thoroughly dissected and debunked. There is also a video that goes along with them in some posts.

I've been towing stock trailers, boats, heavily loaded hay trailers as well as other trailers since the 1970's. Starting in 78 while hauling very heavy campers. (That Okanagan is probably around 4000 lbs. with a COG right at or slightly ahead of the rear axle) In addition I spent 31 years of Patrol time on surface street and Interstates. In all of this I've only seen two "bent" pickups. One was a Ford and one was a Chevy. Both were loaded to the middle of the rear windows with heavy gravel and NOT pulling a trailer. Both were sitting on the ground with rear wheels completely broken off of the axles and the front bumper on the ground in a tepee fashion.

But these pictures and the video have sure generated a lot of conversations and laughs.

Now, this was actually a real event...note the shredded rear wheel...


 
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