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Jan 30, 2015 | 02:09 PM

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underthebridgejim

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From: paradise, northern calif.

Good thread, full of information that most everyone is probably interested in. I thought that in Calif.. Ethanol content (if any) must be posted on the pump, plus you can smell it. I don't know. Anyway I'm finding this thread very educational, thanks everybody for all the info.

Jan 30, 2015 | 02:31 PM

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abe

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Originally Posted by underthebridgejim

Jim, I see you are from Paradise, Calif. You know in Lancaster County in Pennsylvania (heart of Amish country) there is a town called Paradise and a town called Intercourse. On the map you have to go through Intercourse to get to Paradise! But if you go the wrong way you'll end up in Blue Ball, PA!

Jan 30, 2015 | 02:48 PM

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AXracer

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From: Durham NC

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Originally Posted by Gicknordon

Talk to a corn farmer in the midwest. They'll tell you they should go to mandated 20% or higher.

Would you expect anything else? I would be all for the government requiring everyone to fill their tanks with water... if I was selling water.

Jan 30, 2015 | 03:09 PM

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arctic y block

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From: Island Southeast Alaska

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Originally Posted by dadgonebroke

Look at "pure-gas.org" and you can find stations in your state that sell alcohol-free gasoline. Alaska stations don't have enthanol.

I am not sure about ethanol in the gas up here. Often wondered about
it. But short of having it tested how could we really know for sure.
The distributes just tell you what they have been told. BUT I have a couple
trucks in my yard that have had the same gas in them for a couple of
years or more. Once a year or so I will put a half gallon of fresh in
them and start them up and run them up to temp. Prolly an hour.
Yes they smell funny and run a little weak but will get down the road
if I want to. One is an efi 1990 dodge with a 360. The other is an FE
390 in the 66. As I said both will start and go down the road so I am
thinking our gas has no garbage in it. But IDK for sure. What you all
think?

Jan 30, 2015 | 03:11 PM

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Tedster9

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Supposedly stale fuel causes intake valves to stick or lifters to bend.

Jan 30, 2015 | 08:13 PM

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arctic y block

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From: Island Southeast Alaska

I can see a bent valve, but how do ya bend a lifter?
Break it. Lock it up. Wear it down? But to bend one
I just don't see it. To damn hard to bend ain't it?

Jan 30, 2015 | 08:19 PM

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Tedster9

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Solid lifters (pushrods), as God intended

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Jan 31, 2015 | 10:59 AM

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GB SISSON

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From: Orcas Island Wa.

To me lifters are the stout little cylinders that run on the cam and the push rods ride in their indent and carry the motion northward to the rockers. But I'm a woodworker and just do engines as a hobby, and most of mine don't have push rods to begin with. Boy those are really bent! I once went through a fistful of them on a chev 216 that had sat for 22 years.

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Jan 31, 2015 | 12:49 PM

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Cougar54

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From: Milford, Michigan

Here in Michigan the ethanol content had to be posted on the pump so you knew if ethanol was in the gas and what the percentage was. Then a few years back, our illustrious REPUBLICAN governor removed that regulation at the behest of the stations that pump ethanol as they claimed they were losing customers to the stations that pump straight gas. So now, who can tell unless you are tuned into the smell. I'm sure that the governor was just thinking of us though . . .

Jan 31, 2015 | 01:09 PM

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hiball3985

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From: tujunga, calif

Maybe their "Global Warming" BS will work in our favor and kill the corn LOL

I think California is one of the states that doesn't require posting that the gas has ethanol.

Jan 31, 2015 | 01:28 PM

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arctic y block

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Originally Posted by GB SISSON

To me lifters are the stout little cylinders that run on the cam and the push rods ride in their indent and carry the motion northward to the rockers.

X2 on this Gary. Maybe it's a regional thing. Like a hood here
or a bonnet down under.

Jan 31, 2015 | 01:36 PM

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Tedster9

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Yeah yeah, lol. Point is don't run old stale varnished gas.

It's not worth it and only causes trouble. Stabil or PRI seems to work. Also keep tank full. For small engines, one thing that will work is run a tank of coleman fuel (naptha) at end of season. The octane is only about 50 but it will never sour or turn to gum/varnish.