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Jan 4, 2015 | 11:41 PM

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352 stroker

I have a 352 fe I got from a buddy of mine. I'm looking to make it a stroker. I have time on my side so I'm not into a big rush but trying to figure out the stroking part of it. If I put a 428 crank and 390 Pistons in it then it's a 410. But my question is. What rods do I use? Stock 352 rods or 390 or 410? I'm trying to make sure I have clearance with running this bigger stroke. Any info will help. Thanks.

Jan 5, 2015 | 11:54 AM

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First off, what is the bore on your 352? Factory bore is 4.00, the 360 and 390 have a factory bore of 4.05. You can fit a larger crankshaft into it, up to 4.250, but you may need custom pistons if you are near the limits on the bore as it sits and you will probably have valve shrouding problems. How sure are you that it is a 352, most FE blocks will have "352" cast into the drivers front side of the block whether it is a 332 up to 427? Give us some of the casting numbers and date codes and we'll figure this out
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Jan 5, 2015 | 12:21 PM

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I know it's a 352. 4.00 bore and 3.50 stroke. I figured the 428 crank. Rods and Pistons will work if the sonic test comes back fine

Jan 5, 2015 | 03:36 PM

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There is lots of info here, including the 4 x 3.98 combo. Other FE specs etc as well. Checking that block first is a good idea.

FE Engine C.I.D. Combinations

Jan 5, 2015 | 03:51 PM

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I'm also building a 351w thinking about stroker. Where can I find info on that?

Jan 5, 2015 | 04:09 PM

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Based on your earlier thread, it seems you are already familiar with the 302 and 351w. IMO, those engine are easier to build, and are certainly less expensive to build than the FE. Given that you have a 4.00 bore, you may want to take a hard look at working with the FE. The bell to trans patterns are different, so it is not an easy swap with the other motors.

351W makes a fine stroker motor, even with the stock block.

This is old, but then so is the engine and the idea:

Top 10 Tips for Building for your first 351W Stroker - Dragzine

Search "351W stroker" and find dozens like these:

351 Windsor Based Strokers

Ford Engine Kit - Ford 351 Stroker Kit, 351 Windsor, 383, 393, 408, 418, 427, 454, Stroker

Jan 5, 2015 | 04:15 PM

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Yes I have a 302w 351w and a 352fe. 302 is my brothers engine I'm building. So I get to choose between the 351w and the 352fe. Talked to the guy that owns the machine shop down the street from my shop And he said out of both go with the Windsor. But with the fe I could find quick info like swaping 390 rotating into it and the measurements were easy. The Windsor I'm having trouble finding measurements for.

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Jan 5, 2015 | 08:33 PM

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I was looking for what bore and stroke the different stroker kits are. Like a 393 what's the bore and stroke? What's the bore and stroke on a 427?

Jan 5, 2015 | 08:48 PM

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Am I posting too many links at one time?

Ford Engine Kit - Ford 351 Stroker Kit, 351 Windsor, 383, 393, 408, 418, 427, 454, Stroker

393 has a 3.85" stroke. Actual displacement will depend on final bore, which will depend on block condition.

Contrast the W based "427" at 4.030 x 4.170 vs the FE "427" at 4.23 x 3.784. Both these B/S result in about 425 CID, which Ford chose to call "427" in the FE. You can't make a true FE 427 out of a non-427 block. No other block will take the 4.23" bore. The W block will not take that size bore either, and gets the extra displacement from stroke. The .030 etc overbores are just to get a good bore, as they add little displacement.

"427" sounds better than "425". Don't worry about actual displacement differences of a few CI.

You have to click a couple times on those links to get more specific info.

One more time, what are you doing with the engine? Perspiring minds want to know.....

Jan 5, 2015 | 09:01 PM

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Sorry my internet is slow and wouldn't let me click on the links. I have a 302w. 351w and a 352fe. Not sure what motor I'm going to use for my build but my brother wants the 302 for his truck so I guess I'm between the 351w and the 352fe. The guy at the machine shop down the road said he would sonic test any of my blocks for free. I think if the 351w is good to go I'll go with that because everyone is saying its a better platform. And I can find parts for it Easyer. With that being said the 352fe will not go untouched. But for now it will remain in the corner unless this 351 is bad. But I was looking into f100 as a project lowered with a little kick. I think 300hp is a good goal. Not trying to kill the budget to fast. But I also like a 68 or 69 ford fairlane. But I have to wait for tax time to buy another car cause I just bought my first house!!!!! Things change tho.

Jan 11, 2015 | 03:47 PM

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In case you decide to use the FE, here are my thoughts:

I built a 410. If I had to do it again, I would have built a 445. It wouldn't have cost hardly anymore and I would have got a lot more.

In other words, either build a 390 or go 445.

Jan 12, 2015 | 08:08 AM

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One other thing to consider is weight. With comparable H.P. the W will weigh considerably less.

Jan 12, 2015 | 10:39 AM

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With Al heads and manifold, the 390 will almost weigh less than a 351w. It has always been an assumption that the FE is the heaviest engine in the world. Once you (try) to grab hold of an 80lb cast iron intake one handed, well, of course the engine has to be heavy as sin also. B. Rabotnik and J. Brown (and others) have both proven you can build a 500hp/500lbft engine on street gasoline and a carb, how many Windsors can claim that?