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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 11:35 AM
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2008 extended crank when only when cold

Trouble starting our 2008 escape after she has been sitting for atleast 4-5 hours (or more) We can get it going usually but we have to attempt several times before it 'catches'. After running and turning off, it starts no problem. Have replaced mas and didn't help. No 'check engine soon light' so just trying to narrow down the problem. Have replaced the fuel filter and all the spark plugs. Help please, love my escape but not when it doesn't start!!
 
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gastley
Trouble starting our 2008 escape after she has been sitting for atleast 4-5 hours (or more) We can get it going usually but we have to attempt several times before it 'catches'. After running and turning off, it starts no problem. Have replaced mas and didn't help. No 'check engine soon light' so just trying to narrow down the problem. Have replaced the fuel filter and all the spark plugs. Help please, love my escape but not when it doesn't start!!
Does this sound right?

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2008 EscapeMERCURY:
2008 Mariner

ISSUE:


Some 2008 Escape and Mariner vehicles equipped with a 2.3L engine/CD4E transmission (Excludes Hybrid) may exhibit a intermittent crank no-start, hard-start, runs rough after starting in ambient temperatures above 60 degrees F (16 degrees C).

ACTION:


Reprogram the powertrain control module (PCM) to the latest calibration using IDS release 55.8 and higher. This new calibration is not included in the VCM 2008.5 DVD. Calibration files may also be obtained at Buy Motorcraft Parts Online | Official Motorcraft Auto Parts Site | FordParts.com.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by makuloco2000
Does this sound right?

FORD:
2008 EscapeMERCURY:
2008 Mariner

ISSUE:


Some 2008 Escape and Mariner vehicles equipped with a 2.3L engine/CD4E transmission (Excludes Hybrid) may exhibit a intermittent crank no-start, hard-start, runs rough after starting in ambient temperatures above 60 degrees F (16 degrees C).

ACTION:


Reprogram the powertrain control module (PCM) to the latest calibration using IDS release 55.8 and higher. This new calibration is not included in the VCM 2008.5 DVD. Calibration files may also be obtained at Buy Motorcraft Parts Online | Official Motorcraft Auto Parts Site | FordParts.com.
It is a 3l engine and the colder it is, the worse it is!! (below freezing)
 
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 04:21 PM
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It is a 3l engine and the colder it is the harder it is to start.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 10:17 AM
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Have the issue fixed, we needed to replace the coolant temperature sensor. Easy fix really for a big problem!! And no we didn't have any coolant leaks. The sensor was sending the wrong info to the PCM so in turn was sending the wrong gas mixture! Hope this will help anyone with the same issue!!
 
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 12:34 PM
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Wow that is an oddball we don't see those too often.
 
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Old May 13, 2014 | 10:08 PM
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I am having a similar problem with my 2009 Escape with a 3.0L, the hotter the ambient temperature is the longer it cranks to start. I can let the engine sit idle for 30 minutes or let it sit for a few hours in the high heat and it cranks for what seams minutes before starting.
 
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Old May 14, 2014 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by gastley
Have the issue fixed, we needed to replace the coolant temperature sensor. Easy fix really for a big problem!! And no we didn't have any coolant leaks. The sensor was sending the wrong info to the PCM so in turn was sending the wrong gas mixture! Hope this will help anyone with the same issue!!
It had a CT sensor? The 2009MY doesn't have a CT sensor but uses a CHT(cylinder head temperature) sensor.
 
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Old May 14, 2014 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by GRNMSTR
I am having a similar problem with my 2009 Escape with a 3.0L, the hotter the ambient temperature is the longer it cranks to start. I can let the engine sit idle for 30 minutes or let it sit for a few hours in the high heat and it cranks for what seams minutes before starting.
Have you had your dealership check this out, GRNMSTR? How many miles are on your Escape?

Crystal
 
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Old May 14, 2014 | 11:59 AM
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Have you had your dealership check this out, GRNMSTR? How many miles are on your Escape?

Crystal
No, I asked them about it the last time it was in and they said they couldn't duplicate the problem. And that was when it was still under warranty. Now they want a small fortune just to diagnose the problem. I have had a number of issues that they said the warranty did not cover also, like the drivers side mirror not working (heater and movement) which I replaced myself. The Escape now has 129k miles on it.
 
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