03 Expedition A/C Question
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I am hoping that eventually more of these problems with the a/c will surface and Ford will have to address it. Thanks so much for the encouragement. All in all the car handles well and is a nice road car and when I need to haul something, like a 6 foot plant I bought today, just put the seats down and in went my plant. I have even hauled two recliners in it. Lots of room in the back with the 3rd seat down.
I am hoping that eventually more of these problems with the a/c will surface and Ford will have to address it. Thanks so much for the encouragement. All in all the car handles well and is a nice road car and when I need to haul something, like a 6 foot plant I bought today, just put the seats down and in went my plant. I have even hauled two recliners in it. Lots of room in the back with the 3rd seat down.
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My A/C seems to work OK--but it makes a strange, quite loud cycling sound. I haven't taken it in yet because it works fine, but that noise just makes me feel like something is about to break. Has anyone noticed the noise?
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The noise coming from the glovebox area?
Went on alittle road trip today to visit some friends. A/C set on 60 degress 2 bars up read between 44-68 degress on the thermometer stuck into the vent.
My other truck read about 44 degress with the a/c max turned on low.......funny thing is that it read 42 the entire time without the 22 degress of variation.
Went on alittle road trip today to visit some friends. A/C set on 60 degress 2 bars up read between 44-68 degress on the thermometer stuck into the vent.
My other truck read about 44 degress with the a/c max turned on low.......funny thing is that it read 42 the entire time without the 22 degress of variation.
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I appreciate the replies. Taking the car to Ford again on Thursday. Told them it stays till they fix it. Drove the 03 Expy here at work again, and about froze me out and it blew cold continuously.
Am also going in the day before, when nice and hot like 95 and take the service manager for a ride with me. Then they cannot tell me they do not know what I am talking about. I am sure they never even felt the warm air I detailed to them nor drove it out of the service area.
Very irritating. Also seems from the response here my A/C has a problem because no one else has reported this same situation.
Don't know about noises. At least mine is quiet at what it does
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Am also going in the day before, when nice and hot like 95 and take the service manager for a ride with me. Then they cannot tell me they do not know what I am talking about. I am sure they never even felt the warm air I detailed to them nor drove it out of the service area.
Very irritating. Also seems from the response here my A/C has a problem because no one else has reported this same situation.
Don't know about noises. At least mine is quiet at what it does
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I don't know how much more I can help with this subject, but I have to put in my 2 cents.
The day I was suppose to take delivery of my 03 Expy because I ordered mine months before it came out the a/c didn't work. It just moved air around. So the dealer had to change the compressor on it. I was telling myself, my god I'm already having problems with the truck and I don't even own it yet. But ever since I have not had any problems with the truck. I drive about 25000 miles a year and a lot if it is through the desert and the a/c is still cranking. Eventhough I went through that ordeal I still love my Expy.
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The day I was suppose to take delivery of my 03 Expy because I ordered mine months before it came out the a/c didn't work. It just moved air around. So the dealer had to change the compressor on it. I was telling myself, my god I'm already having problems with the truck and I don't even own it yet. But ever since I have not had any problems with the truck. I drive about 25000 miles a year and a lot if it is through the desert and the a/c is still cranking. Eventhough I went through that ordeal I still love my Expy.
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I've noticed some cycling of the a/c, but in almost 10K miles, I've only considered it "warm" once or twice.
I assumed it was normal compressor cycling and added it to the list for a future check at the dealer.
I assumed it was normal compressor cycling and added it to the list for a future check at the dealer.
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It was 114 here today, and I could detect the cycling of the a/c, but, it appeared to be normal.
Took a 30 mile trip yesterday at a temp of 111 and had to turn the fan on low.
Sounds like a dealer needs to fix an a/c unit.
My 03 has only 400 miles on it, I'll let you know if I start to have a/c problems.
Took a 30 mile trip yesterday at a temp of 111 and had to turn the fan on low.
Sounds like a dealer needs to fix an a/c unit.
My 03 has only 400 miles on it, I'll let you know if I start to have a/c problems.
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Just got back from a 200 mile road trip pulling my camper. We used the A/C on max all the way...no problems. The outside temp was about 100 F.
That being said, the A/C unit on my '72 Olds 442; Real Freon and a huge Frigidaire compressor, is way better than my Expy!
That being said, the A/C unit on my '72 Olds 442; Real Freon and a huge Frigidaire compressor, is way better than my Expy!
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Just to be sure I read your post right (fuel for my return trip to Ford) your A/C did not cycle every 2-3 mintues from max cold to lukewarm for 15-20 seconds? This would be going on the whole time while driving.
I am so frustrated, as I know this is not right on my car, but they tell me they are supposed to cycle like that. When that warm air blows in, the smell and the immediate warming of the car keeps reminding me this is not right. But tell Ford that.
Thanks for verifying this. Will copy all the responses and take with me to Ford.
Just to be sure I read your post right (fuel for my return trip to Ford) your A/C did not cycle every 2-3 mintues from max cold to lukewarm for 15-20 seconds? This would be going on the whole time while driving.
I am so frustrated, as I know this is not right on my car, but they tell me they are supposed to cycle like that. When that warm air blows in, the smell and the immediate warming of the car keeps reminding me this is not right. But tell Ford that.
Thanks for verifying this. Will copy all the responses and take with me to Ford.
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Raudy,
I feel your pain.....I really do. We have the wifes 03 in the shop again today because it was really blowing alot of warm air over the weekend. Had some friends in the car that had never been in it and had no idea about the problems sitting in the back seats asking if we could turn the a/c colder because all they were getting was warm air.
Pulled in the service dept. this morning a/c on three bars, 60 degrees, thermometer reading around 67 stuck in the vent. Service guy just looked at me like ooooooh crap. Service manager told me b/c I was filing lemon law on it that they were only aloud to replace anything that was known to be bad. Could not just replace things in hopes to find the problem. It will be late August before my hearing so I guess Ford just wants me to drive my family around like this until then. Really unhappy knowing that dealership or Ford will not step up to the plate and put us in another vehicle now. Maybe alittle shoe polish about my fine Ford on the rear window will wake them up.
I feel your pain.....I really do. We have the wifes 03 in the shop again today because it was really blowing alot of warm air over the weekend. Had some friends in the car that had never been in it and had no idea about the problems sitting in the back seats asking if we could turn the a/c colder because all they were getting was warm air.
Pulled in the service dept. this morning a/c on three bars, 60 degrees, thermometer reading around 67 stuck in the vent. Service guy just looked at me like ooooooh crap. Service manager told me b/c I was filing lemon law on it that they were only aloud to replace anything that was known to be bad. Could not just replace things in hopes to find the problem. It will be late August before my hearing so I guess Ford just wants me to drive my family around like this until then. Really unhappy knowing that dealership or Ford will not step up to the plate and put us in another vehicle now. Maybe alittle shoe polish about my fine Ford on the rear window will wake them up.
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KIPG:
Just curious, are you filing for the lemon law because of the air conditioning problem only, or do you have other issues with the car? I shudder to think about having to deal with a car that is just nothing but a lemon. Feel for you and your wife...
Just curious, are you filing for the lemon law because of the air conditioning problem only, or do you have other issues with the car? I shudder to think about having to deal with a car that is just nothing but a lemon. Feel for you and your wife...
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Only reason is because of the air. We had several problems with a cycling noise from the glovebox area and the right rear panal. Made a aggravating noise, but did not seem to do much else. Had to have the passanger mirror replaced because at 60-65 m.p.h. is whistled like the window was cracked. (Don't ask why, but it did) Other than those few problems the vehicle has been great if the a/c worked correctly 24/7. We have had a loss of power during acceleration a few times, but haven't even addressed that issue. Is isn't a early shift, but more like a hesitation (spelling)
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FINALLY, they seem to have found the problem with my air conditioner. They say it is an erratic thermostatic expansion valve.
They had the car all day, drove it several times long distances and worked several hours testing with calls to Ford, from what they tell me.
They need to order the above part, and it goes back next week to get in put on.
Just passing along and for me sure hope that is the problem. If not will post back.
Hope this helps others with this same problem.
They had the car all day, drove it several times long distances and worked several hours testing with calls to Ford, from what they tell me.
They need to order the above part, and it goes back next week to get in put on.
Just passing along and for me sure hope that is the problem. If not will post back.
Hope this helps others with this same problem.
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They changed both my front and back along time ago Raudy and it did not resolve my problem. They actually replaced them both once and then took them back out again and reoiled them b/c they thought they had to much oil in them and that was not allowing them to open and close properly. I took mine in again Monday and they had it until Thursday morning. They had no problem getting 20 degress differance in air while driving it. When all was said and done they called the regional Ford rep and told him that we needed to speed the lemon law process up b/c they have no anwser for why it is happening. I would say if your problem isn't fix this time to go ahead and start whatever type of replacment process they have in your state b/c I doubt they will fix it. They have been in contact with the Ford master techs, Rizzo Ford in Rhode Island, Jarrett Ford and nobody can anwser why this is happening.
I know they were expansion valves, but not sure if they are the same as a thernostatic exp. valve. Anyways, GOOD LUCK.
I know they were expansion valves, but not sure if they are the same as a thernostatic exp. valve. Anyways, GOOD LUCK.
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I’m having a similar problem with my 03 Expy. In fact it is in the dealer now for this and other problems. Hum/groan from the front end, mirror popping, noise from rear door seal, and the AC are all on the list.
One of the things that I noticed about the Temp control was that my external temp reading was off by +- 10 degrees. This seemed strange to me since my 2000 expy was always right on the money. The tech at the dealership keyed on this right away. He said that the temp control system uses 3 items to control the temp. setpoint, internal temp sensor and external temp sensor. He replaced the external sensor and is testing the car today. He has already reporting that it seems to be running better. He may replace the internal sensor also just to be on the safe side. I will let you know how it turns out.
One of the things that I noticed about the Temp control was that my external temp reading was off by +- 10 degrees. This seemed strange to me since my 2000 expy was always right on the money. The tech at the dealership keyed on this right away. He said that the temp control system uses 3 items to control the temp. setpoint, internal temp sensor and external temp sensor. He replaced the external sensor and is testing the car today. He has already reporting that it seems to be running better. He may replace the internal sensor also just to be on the safe side. I will let you know how it turns out.