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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 04:24 PM
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Trans Fluid change, Help

I have a 04 F250 6.0. Any good threads out there for dropping the trans Pan and replacing the filter and seal. My seal is leaking so I'm trying to find info from start to finish. Also looking for fluid type and amount. Never done this, I'm sure it will be a mess! lol I'm at 200,000 miles and I don't think its been done yet I got the truck at 140,000.

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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Robby Nash
I have a 04 F250 6.0. Any good threads out there for dropping the trans Pan and replacing the filter and seal. My seal is leaking so I'm trying to find info from start to finish. Also looking for fluid type and amount. Never done this, I'm sure it will be a mess! lol I'm at 200,000 miles and I don't think its been done yet I got the truck at 140,000.

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It's not a mess at all if you have the drain plug in your pan. In my opinion you're asking for trouble with that Tranny. 60,000 miles between fluid change (not counting what the PO did? What about the external filter? Have you not changed that either? If the previous owner didn't keep up with it, it's potentially on 100-200,000 between filter/changes. Wow.


Fluid: Mercon SP or LV at O'Reilly's $5.99 per quart. You'll need 7.5 to 8 quarts each time you drain it. It holds 18 quarts. I bought 24 quarts and changed it out at 100-500 mile intervals.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 04:58 PM
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Thanks for the help. Yea its not good How long I have waited. It will be my weekend project to take care of it.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 05:20 PM
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You will only get a little more than 8 qts. out dropping the pan. The 18 qts. quoted is with a complete flush which you can't do without a machine. You also don't need to change the internal filter. Just the external filter. My suggestion would be to drop the pan, install the new gasket and add 8 qts. of SP or LV only. Check level and if good then drive it for a 100 miles or one week, as per expy, and then just pull the drain plug, drain and add 8 qts. and repeat one more time. After that I would do the drain plug drain and 8 qts. every 10,000 mile with a new external tranny filter.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 08:42 PM
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Transmission pan bolts = 11ft/lbs
Transmission drain = 13ft/lbs
 
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 08:48 PM
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I thought the earlier Trucks u did need to change internal filter
I know the 05+ (torqueshift) have a screen filter instead of the old media & also i read somewhere (but cant find of course) how to drain the remaining old fluid.
I believe it entailed removing cooler lines & using suction side to draw new fluid from container & pump side into waste container until fluid is clean
 
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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you can get 12qt out with alittle messing around that only leaves 6qt in
This Hot flush machine is in ?? in my mind

I just don't think because a Flush machine is Hooked up to it and 18qt went into it that it Flushes 100% theres to many different Paths ect for the Fluid to go not as simple as in 1 end and out the other especialy since there is no gears changed like it was being Driven

It maybe the best thing going IDK I just think theres a lot of things that would have to come into play for it to work like everyone thinks it does

Just because 18qt went in Don't mean 18qt of OLD Oil went Out
I would be surprised if the flush machine really flushed more then 14qt of old oil out

BUT MAYBE IT DOES 100% Change of fluid IDK I'm just a little skeptical Because of Lack of Knowledge on how its Done exactly


Does anyone know the Flush sequence and how the Machine is Hooked Up??? Supply and return lines where they hook up??????do the Silinoids get cycled at least?????

I would Love to Know I haven't been able to find anything on it Iv asked before Just need the Right Person/s to see it
 
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 09:46 PM
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HOW TO GET MORE THAN *QT TRANNY FLUID OUT
How To Get More Than 8 To 7 Quarts - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum


I used this^^to get 12qt out

The main thing was Blowing the Lines with air that got ALOT More fluid out
 
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Old Oct 19, 2013 | 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 69cj
You will only get a little more than 8 qts. out dropping the pan. The 18 qts. quoted is with a complete flush which you can't do without a machine. You also don't need to change the internal filter. Just the external filter. My suggestion would be to drop the pan, install the new gasket and add 8 qts. of SP or LV only. Check level and if good then drive it for a 100 miles or one week, as per expy, and then just pull the drain plug, drain and add 8 qts. and repeat one more time. After that I would do the drain plug drain and 8 qts. every 10,000 mile with a new external tranny filter.
I am doing the drain and re-fill procedure 3 times every 30k miles (and external filter change). Seems to be working well.

King-bRanch:
The internal filter is a fine mesh screen in all year models and not required to be changed.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2013 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bismic
I am doing the drain and re-fill procedure 3 times every 30k miles (and external filter change). Seems to be working well.

King-bRanch:
The internal filter is a fine mesh screen in all year models and not required to be changed.
2003 thru 2007 has the sreen mess filter. 2008 Ford went with a true internal filter. 2008 ia also the 1st year for the 6.4.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2013 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by King-bRanch
I thought the earlier Trucks u did need to change internal filter
Up until Job#2 2008 you did NOT need to change the internal filter. As a running change during the 2008 model year the external filter was deleted and the internal filter improved to where it is better than the external filter was. These later internal filters DO need to be changed. If there is no external filter housing then the internal filter needs to be changed.
Originally Posted by King-bRanch
I believe it entailed removing cooler lines & using suction side to draw new fluid from container & pump side into waste container until fluid is clean
That won't work. There is no suction side to draw the fluid in.

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King-bRanch:
The internal filter is a fine mesh screen in all year models and not required to be changed.
Not true. See above.
Originally Posted by 69cj
2003 thru 2007 has the sreen mess filter. 2008 Ford went with a true internal filter. 2008 ia also the 1st year for the 6.4.
Not all 2008 trucks are like this. See above.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2013 | 09:54 AM
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Right or wrong, I have only ever done spill n fills in 03-07 Superduty trucks.

I'll drop the pan to clean the magnet and only change the external filter.

I also only do spill n fills in my 2004 Maxima and those are notrious for lunching the tranny early. Mine has 230,000 miles.

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Old Oct 19, 2013 | 10:01 AM
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Not sure how accurate but this process looks accurate


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Old Oct 19, 2013 | 11:37 AM
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It's very accurate FOR A 4R100! It will NOT work on a TorqShift. I should know, I wrote that procedure that they stole without attribution.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2013 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
It's very accurate FOR A 4R100! It will NOT work on a TorqShift. I should know, I wrote that procedure that they stole without attribution.
Oh snap!

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