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Old Jan 30, 2013 | 07:51 AM
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Ahhh ok. Didnt re-read the thread. Just saw a floor shifter in a pic.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2013 | 10:09 PM
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Got a couple new parts today! Correct intake manifold, and a DUI coil. Installed my oil pan today first. Thank God for those plastic snap-ups for oil pan installs! That went off without a hitch suprisingly. I know someone asked about a oil pan install and how much clearance you have on here. Here's a shot of the motor raised up about 1/2 way. Dont be afraid to pull the motor up against the cab, My cab did move while i was lifting considerably. Another reminder that I need new body mounts.


Here's after I put the intake manifold up on there.


After that, I pre lubed my motor. Down the hole where the distributor goes, I dumped my oil down, then I got a drill with the correct socket on it, and put it on the hex piece of stock where the distributor goes. Start spinning the drill, and the oil starts flowing throughout the motor


Uncovered my emissions label today too. PO painted over it for some reason. Also discovered something today too. I already knew that my truck originally came with a 302 and was later swapped for a 351W. What I didn't know that my truck came equipped with EFI. I noticed a MAP sensor, and thought hmm. Sure enough, had a computer hidden up under the dash. This explains the all the unused electrical connectors, and misc things I've been encountering. So my question is, since I have no EFI what purpose is the PCM serving right now?


Threw a valve cover on along with my carb, air cleaner, header, and coil to gain some satisfaction. Loving the way it's looking. She just screams no BS.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2013 | 10:18 PM
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Yes, it does look good! As for the computer, I doubt it is controlling anything. Even if it is still hooked to something the poor thing is in such shock at not having any inputs that it went into limp-home mode long ago. In the ones I've seen the wiring for the ECM has been totally separate so can be extracated.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2013 | 10:46 PM
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Yes, it does look good! As for the computer, I doubt it is controlling anything. Even if it is still hooked to something the poor thing is in such shock at not having any inputs that it went into limp-home mode long ago. In the ones I've seen the wiring for the ECM has been totally separate so can be extracated.
Thanks Gary! Computers on these vehicles strictly controls the fuel injection only correct? Other than that, they serve no purpose?
 
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Old Jan 31, 2013 | 09:33 AM
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Jake - If the engine was EFI'd then the computer controlled that as well as spark advance. IIRC, those engines had the TFI ignition and the distributor had no means for advance, meaning no weights nor vacuum. On earlier vehicles with a feedback carb the computer controlled that, the spark advance, and a slew of vacuum valves that operated various things like where the AIR pump was injecting the air. Not sure what yours originally had, but I think you said yours came with a 302 and that was probably an EFI version.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 11:28 PM
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Got her all done today! Pulled a all-nighter working on her last night, and I'm glad I did. However, She still ain't running. Still have to adjust the carb so I actually can run it. Have to break in the cam too. In the meantime, I've been driving a 5 speed dodge ram with a 318. Fact is, I'm seriously debating putting in a manual now. Now, whats yall's take on this and who else has done it. I'd rather not have a 3spd but rather a 4 or 5 speed. I have a C6 4x4 trans right now, and I would most likely find something where I can still use my original T-case correct?




Fuel Line I made.

Done! Almost.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 11:56 PM
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Looks great.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 08:04 AM
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I changed from a C6 to a ZF5, and I'm glad I did for a couple of reasons. First is the fuel economy. With no OD and no lock-up converter the C6 is a gas hog. Since I changed engines at the same time I can't really tell you what the boost was exactly, but I would agree with others that have said you'll gain 1 - 2 MPG with the swap.

Second is being able to shift my own gears. That's what I've always thought I wanted in a truck, and I enjoy it for the kind of driving I do.

But, I will say that going with a manual seemed to take some of the sophistication out of the truck. It is more rough and tumble now. Before you just drove it, but now you have to think about it. And, with the slack in the driveline and no cushion like provided by the torque converter you also have to be a bit more delicate or you get big clunks.

As for the t-case, Ford used the same ones behind the manual transmissions as behind the auto, so you are good to go.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 09:33 AM
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I was stuck with autos when the wife and i only had 2 daily drivers. If 1 went down she had to be able to drive the other. After 5 long years i was able to bang gears myself. I love it.

An automatic 4x4 is nice. Its good for just cruising. But to really use a 4x4 there is nothing like a stick.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary Lewis
I changed from a C6 to a ZF5, and I'm glad I did for a couple of reasons. First is the fuel economy. With no OD and no lock-up converter the C6 is a gas hog. Since I changed engines at the same time I can't really tell you what the boost was exactly, but I would agree with others that have said you'll gain 1 - 2 MPG with the swap.

Second is being able to shift my own gears. That's what I've always thought I wanted in a truck, and I enjoy it for the kind of driving I do.

But, I will say that going with a manual seemed to take some of the sophistication out of the truck. It is more rough and tumble now. Before you just drove it, but now you have to think about it. And, with the slack in the driveline and no cushion like provided by the torque converter you also have to be a bit more delicate or you get big clunks.

As for the t-case, Ford used the same ones behind the manual transmissions as behind the auto, so you are good to go.
Thanks Gary! I too like being able to shift my gears, for towing, and I enjoy it. I guess first place to start is the junkyard. What's your opinion on junkyard transmissions? I'm debating that one, but as for my pedal assy I'll need, I can get that there(almost every 80's Ford truck was manual) and all my other parts fairly cheap.

Forgot this pic last night
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 12:32 PM
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I'm running a craigslist ZF5, but it does need to be rebuilt as the synchro's are bad to the point it doesn't always go into reverse. But, it works. And, craigslist has no warranty while from a salvage might, so that would be better.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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Sunday morning I got the truck running with the help of a friend and all I can say is wow! Still have to adjust the kick down, but she still hauls! Hit the motor's 'sweet spot' at 16 degrees advance. Strong and has quite a bark to her. Have the cutouts on and man, it's loud. Took the truck for a test run and gunned it down the road from a stand still, lit the tires for a good 60 feet without hesitation. Still have some bugs to work out and such, but that's to be expected. Somehow, my crank pulley does not align with my water pump pulley. I'm sorta confused how that's happening, but my buddies looking at it tomorow and I'll see what he comes up with. You guys have any thoughts on what might be a factor on that?
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 08:40 PM
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It is always a huge rush when the engine runs, and runs well.

On the pulleys, is it a new water pump? (Surely it is.) Could it be the wrong one? And, the crank pulley bolts to the balancer - is the balancer on all the way?
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Lewis
It is always a huge rush when the engine runs, and runs well.

On the pulleys, is it a new water pump? (Surely it is.) Could it be the wrong one? And, the crank pulley bolts to the balancer - is the balancer on all the way?
Yes it is, Couldn't keep a smile off my face when she first fired up!

Yes it's a new-er pump. Was on the truck when I got it and it was lining up fine before the build. The balancer is definately in all the way. Could the new timing chain set be a factor?
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 09:07 PM
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No, unless the gear is keeping the balancer from going all the way on. Is this a new balancer? If you have the old one look at where the seal was running and compare to where it is on this one.
 
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