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Hello everyone. I am helping a friend with a 2004 F350 auto 4X4.
I pulled the codes 0401, 2614 and 2617.
I read that the 2614 and 2617 codes wil show up during a no start situation so I am asking if the CPS is the likely problem as it is on the 7.3?
This all started with water in fuel light and I have replaced both filters. The truck started after I replaced them and seemed to run ok but the next morning it would not start. I plugged the block heater in just in case the glow plugs were having problems.
The engine cranks fast and attempts to fire but never starts.
I pulled the codes 0401, 2614 and 2617.
I read that the 2614 and 2617 codes wil show up during a no start situation so I am asking if the CPS is the likely problem as it is on the 7.3?
This all started with water in fuel light and I have replaced both filters. The truck started after I replaced them and seemed to run ok but the next morning it would not start. I plugged the block heater in just in case the glow plugs were having problems.
The engine cranks fast and attempts to fire but never starts.
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I'm not quick with the dtc numbers. I can't remember which one is bad if the tach moves. Either cam or crank sensor. Maybe someone will chime in here. Was any of the codes related to cam or crank?? Cps is cam, I think cks is crank.
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Ok,,, it's cmp for cam,,, and ckp for crank. You are getting both codes,,, it would be unusual for them both to go out at the same time.
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Yes I drove the truck and pulled the plugs on both filters many times due to the water in fuel light coming on during each test drive.
I felt as though the problem was fixed after the last test drive last night (water in fuel) and then this no start happened this morning.
I felt as though the problem was fixed after the last test drive last night (water in fuel) and then this no start happened this morning.
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Do you remember if all the codes came at the same time. I remember last time I lost the crank sensor,, I got a crank sensor code first, then the cam sensor code followed after one long no start.
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Does the truck have an egr delete??
Hey Mark,,, can a long no start also trip a crank sensor code??
I believe so.
Also, doesn't the tach only get info from either the cam or crank sensor?? Not both???
Cheezit has said it comes from the Cam sensor. The WSM (workshop manual) states differently. I will have to say I am not 100% sure.
Hey Mark,,, can a long no start also trip a crank sensor code??
I believe so.
Also, doesn't the tach only get info from either the cam or crank sensor?? Not both???
Cheezit has said it comes from the Cam sensor. The WSM (workshop manual) states differently. I will have to say I am not 100% sure.
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My money is on either one or more of the following issues present:
-Badly carboned up EGR valve causing it to stick open, and hence a hard/no-start.
-Weak/faulty injector(s).
-Low/weak/no fuel pressure.
-Badly carboned up EGR valve causing it to stick open, and hence a hard/no-start.
-Weak/faulty injector(s).
-Low/weak/no fuel pressure.