Anyone who buys this truck or any other without considering their ability to pay for a major repair in the thousands is a fool. I stayed away from these new diesels for years but finally decided to buy one once I came to terms with the possibility of a $10000+ repair. Would I like it? Not one bit but you pay the price of admission if you wanna dance, and I wanna dance. Having said that I paid for the extended warranty and service plan because this was a completely new product that was completely FORD built and had no real world data. My hope was my extended warranty would get me through any teething pains and let the OEM or aftermarket remedy the weak points that would be inevitable with this truck. I'm good until 2015 bumper to bumper and 2016 driveline. Hopefully by then any weaknesses have been corrected, proofed, and available to all of us. I am in canada (460 scar rating) and I only buy my fuel from national brands, used PM22 almost since new, and drain my DFCM about every 6 weeks. No problems except a re-flash for
shifting. I's a great truck and I love it.

Rick, hopefully things work out for you.

 

Repectfully, I must disagree...you bought the ticket to the dance when you shelled out $50,000 to buy the truck. Using your metaphor, you are now saying that you put another $10,000 aside for the music. Yes, all trucks break...even GM's and Dodges...maintenance and perishable parts are part of ownership...having to keep in mind that part of your purchase price is a possible $10,000 repair that is caused by Ford's using a barely qualified, if that, part in the truck... that by the part manufacturer's own documentation is marginal...This is not part of the dance...it's the drunk driving ticket you get for imbibing too much at the dance...

Go camping...I had the truck scanned... the CEL, and there is only one, is for the Reductant problem...I will take it to the dealer my daughter uses when I get the chance...they seem to be a helpful place but they are 100 miles away...I also filed a complaint with the EPA...

Regards

 

Can't fault that logic Rick. I purchased the extended warranty based on the fact that it was a new engine, etc. I hope i never need it but these types of problems can hit any single one of us without warning. Unfortunately, it hit you and you have decided to voice your opinion. Sad to see one of the most Pro Ford guys on the planet treated this way by the company he was so fond of. Reminds me of a bad divorce - BTDT

 

Yes you accept all of this as a "beta tester". (August 2010) That is whay I bought the extended warranties and service plan. I believe even you had used this term in the past.

Actually I wouldn't say $10,000 for music more likely dinner and drinks. All the big 3 have had issues and all have had owners shelling out thousands for repairs not covered by warranty. Not just Ford. I stand by my statement. If you want to dance you best be able to afford to pay cause you always spend more at a dance then you thought you would.

As I said I would and will be pissed if it happens to me but I knew this going into this puchase it was a possibility and I still bought the truck.

I have no opinion one way or another as far as your situation, (typically Canadian). Everyone deals with an injustice in their own way. That is what's great about being free, you have that right. I hope your CEL issues are worked out and you eventually find the truck that works for you.

To be clear, the fool reference wasn't meant to be directed at you it is to anyone who doesn't think and accept the fact that they may have to shell out thousands to repair this or any other modern diesel truck. Hell it was $3200 just to do injectors on the 7.3 so what's this beast going to cost?

 

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I don't think any of us made our money with that attitude. Most of us on here can afford the repairs but does that make it right?

The extended warranty's are a great idea but Ford not honoring the warranties is part of the issue.

 

Jeff H. I agree Ford not honoring the warranty is the issue. But neither you nor I have first hand information regarding this case so we really don't know the story. All I know is if my truck breaks and it's not covered by warranty I will be pissed. I'll fix it and I will move along. I am prepared to do that if I have to and it was something I considered prior to buying it. I have confidence in my truck and I don't think it will be an issue. But if it is, c'est la vie!

 

What is considered first hand information?

Regards

 

Getting both sides' opinion before forming your own.

 

Insurance companys are generally pretty well funded. They don't get that way or stay that way by miscalculating risk.

I find it interesting that the Ford owners here that buy the Gieco Mechanical breakdown insurance pay quite a bit more for it than I do for my Dmax........Just sayin.....YMMV

Rick, I hope they get your EGR issues sorted out soon and you can have some trouble free miles.

 

How much you payin'?

 

...so the first hand information from the person involved is not first hand information...are you inferring that I am less than truthful? Vince, you are a respected Ford tech. I have always said your knowledge of the 6.0 engine was excellent. I believe you are well informed about the 6.7 as well. But to imply that I have been less than truthful is not borne out by history...but you are entitled to your opinion...even if it is wrong...and you are...

Regards

 

Quite a conclusion to jump to Rick, I don't see anyone calling you a liar.

 

When I first got it I was paying 16.00 for six months..IIRC someone here was paying 59.00 or 69.00 at that time. I just got my renewal...20.33

Even the higher ford figure is reasonable in my book. But the Dmax is wayyy too good a deal to pass up.

I do figure that the insurance company has this calculated so that they won't lose money..So that would infer that GM s are having zilch in the way of claims. This is pretty much backed up by the lack of chatter on the GM forums.

Of course it sux that I feel the need to pay for this, but I figure that I **** more money away on beer than what this is costing, and I sleep good at night.

 

And that is something that we have never been told. Ford has never said boo about it.

So since Ford has nothing to say, and Rick is still around with most of his money....My conclusion is that he is telling the truth.

 

Ooh, this could get bad.

If I remember right, the whole main issue is this:

The servicing dealer that received ricks truck and burned his factory warranty is the party that has not provided the first hand side of the story. They claimed water intrusion.

The question is, no evidence.

The assumption made by Rick is that the dealer failed to document the initial tear down properly leading to the ford rep denying approval for a warranty repair, then, the dealer manufactured the claim that water caused the pump failure thereby passing the bill to Rick rather than admitting they're mistake.

Or something like that.