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From: Wellington, KS
Yeah, I too would like to get back to your original post Rick. We all know how the mere appearance of your name here can cause the strong replies from some. And, that's OK as we all have a right to voice our opinions as long as it doesn't go too far afield.
Now, with all that said, Rick can you provide any more info about this latest episode. Perhaps we can leave past threads in the past.
I hope all the great people here had a wonderful Thanksgiving and didn't spend too much at the sales events last night. Walmart got some of our money starting at 10 PM.
Jim
Now, with all that said, Rick can you provide any more info about this latest episode. Perhaps we can leave past threads in the past.
I hope all the great people here had a wonderful Thanksgiving and didn't spend too much at the sales events last night. Walmart got some of our money starting at 10 PM.
Jim
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Yeah, I too would like to get back to your original post Rick. We all know how the mere appearance of your name here can cause the strong replies from some. And, that's OK as we all have a right to voice our opinions as long as it doesn't go too far afield.
Now, with all that said, Rick can you provide any more info about this latest episode. Perhaps we can leave past threads in the past.
I hope all the great people here had a wonderful Thanksgiving and didn't spend too much at the sales events last night. Walmart got some of our money starting at 10 PM.
Jim
Now, with all that said, Rick can you provide any more info about this latest episode. Perhaps we can leave past threads in the past.
I hope all the great people here had a wonderful Thanksgiving and didn't spend too much at the sales events last night. Walmart got some of our money starting at 10 PM.
Jim
There is really no more info at this time. Recapping, after replacing the EGR cooler last Monday, the CEL returned in less than 12 hours and 10 miles. Very reluctantly, the dealer service writer scanned the truck. She found two codes. One for fuel pressure failure to learn and one for a reductant sensor. The fuel code comes and goes. Two dealers have chased the thing around when it happened to be still lit when I got there. It always goes away but occasionally returns. I am not concerned about that CEL. The concern is that the very next day, after repairs and clearing the codes, a new reductant sensor CEL appears. They cleared the CEL but iot returns in less than 10 miles. They refuse to scan the truck without me paying $100...yet they know there is an emissions code. My next move is a call to the EPA enforcement official in this area...that will happen on Monday...until then...I drive the truck...
Hope that answers your question
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From: Wellington, KS
Thanks Rick. I don't know how I would react if your truck was MY truck. I'm sure my wife would already have divorced me and I would be using psychiatric help. My truck has only been at the dealer once since the day I took possession. That was for some kind of code update. I watched the young diesel tech do it on his laptop, but he did it so fast I don't know what it was for.
Of course my truck is one of the puny chassis cabs. I know they are different in several ways. We love it, but it won't get used now until spring. Maybe out of the garage every couple of weeks for a short drive and that's it. We love the truck. And the mileage is great. I have enjoyed our emails and phone conversations.
I wish you well with the latest round of issues. I hope your future truck purchase is a happier situation than this truck has been. Everyone views your situation in a different way, but I'm sure no one would exchange places with you.
I hope you and your family had a good Thanksgiving we sure did, of course I ate too much. Best wishes to you and the family.
Jim
Of course my truck is one of the puny chassis cabs. I know they are different in several ways. We love it, but it won't get used now until spring. Maybe out of the garage every couple of weeks for a short drive and that's it. We love the truck. And the mileage is great. I have enjoyed our emails and phone conversations.
I wish you well with the latest round of issues. I hope your future truck purchase is a happier situation than this truck has been. Everyone views your situation in a different way, but I'm sure no one would exchange places with you.
I hope you and your family had a good Thanksgiving we sure did, of course I ate too much. Best wishes to you and the family.
Jim
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You must have really irritated the dealer for them to be charging $100 to scan a check engine code? Gees, my dealer was happy to scan my past trucks anytime there was a code. It ment that he was going to get some service work and revenue.
Isn't it good business for the dealer to scan the code, identify the error in order to get the service work? If I brought a truck in with no obvious code and asked for a scan, I could understand the $100 charge. But not if there is potential warranty work.
I've yet to see a code on my 2011 truck, Maybe Ford has changed their policy.
I just wonder what chance there is, that your 17 return trips to the dealer are related to the major repair you suffered a year ago? So many trucks running great and yours has turned into an on going lemon.
Isn't it good business for the dealer to scan the code, identify the error in order to get the service work? If I brought a truck in with no obvious code and asked for a scan, I could understand the $100 charge. But not if there is potential warranty work.
I've yet to see a code on my 2011 truck, Maybe Ford has changed their policy.
I just wonder what chance there is, that your 17 return trips to the dealer are related to the major repair you suffered a year ago? So many trucks running great and yours has turned into an on going lemon.
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You must have really irritated the dealer for them to be charging $100 to scan a check engine code? Gees, my dealer was happy to scan my past trucks anytime there was a code. It ment that he was going to get some service work and revenue.
Isn't it good business for the dealer to scan the code, identify the error in order to get the service work? If I brought a truck in with no obvious code and asked for a scan, I could understand the $100 charge. But not if there is potential warranty work.
I've yet to see a code on my 2011 truck, Maybe Ford has changed their policy.
I just wonder what chance there is, that your 17 return trips to the dealer are related to the major repair you suffered a year ago? So many trucks running great and yours has turned into an on going lemon.
Isn't it good business for the dealer to scan the code, identify the error in order to get the service work? If I brought a truck in with no obvious code and asked for a scan, I could understand the $100 charge. But not if there is potential warranty work.
I've yet to see a code on my 2011 truck, Maybe Ford has changed their policy.
I just wonder what chance there is, that your 17 return trips to the dealer are related to the major repair you suffered a year ago? So many trucks running great and yours has turned into an on going lemon.
...as to the original repairs after the HPFP failed...nothing that they worked on has failed, leaked, fell off or otherwise malfunctioned...so I do not think the current travails are related.
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From: Greenwood, SC
Gavin. You're one funny guy. I hope I can meet ya when I head up that way.
Mr. painted horse, my sentiments exactly. The LAST thing his dealer wants to see is his truck/him. Zero possibility that any outcome of a visit to his dealer is going to be amicable. No win situation for anyone. Same situation here at FTE.
Mr. painted horse, my sentiments exactly. The LAST thing his dealer wants to see is his truck/him. Zero possibility that any outcome of a visit to his dealer is going to be amicable. No win situation for anyone. Same situation here at FTE.
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You guy's crack me up...how has the mission changed? What is my real motive? Please enlighten the world with your cerebral abilities to read intention where there is none. The wader's, while funny, are an accusation of mis-truths spoken by me...please, with all your psychic talents, tell me where I have ever wished death and destruction of anyone's 6.7 Ford? I would never wish anyone, even the worst of the bashers here, to have the experience that I have had in the hameful Event episode...to accuse me of that is just a lie!!!
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Wow! It seems as if there is a campaign going on to discredit Rick. I can't believe more of you aren't standing behind him as your trucks have the same badly engineered system as Ricks. It's just a matter of time until the fuel system fails and causes a ridiculous amount of damage.
I realize I'm a new diesel owner, BUT WOW, how can you sit there and defend Ford after screwing so many people with the undisputed problems with the 6.0, 6.4, and now the 6.7. Especially a guy who had his engine prematurely fail at 127,000 miles.
I realize I'm a new diesel owner, BUT WOW, how can you sit there and defend Ford after screwing so many people with the undisputed problems with the 6.0, 6.4, and now the 6.7. Especially a guy who had his engine prematurely fail at 127,000 miles.
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From: Greenwood, SC
Nah, you've got it backwards. Rick is the only person (maybe a couple more) here that is right. The rest of us are just trying to get through life as best we can and not let something like this take over.
We like our trucks, deal with it.
We like our trucks, deal with it.
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From: The Great State of Texas
You guy's crack me up...how has the mission changed? What is my real motive? Please enlighten the world with your cerebral abilities to read intention where there is none. The wader's, while funny, are an accusation of mis-truths spoken by me...please, with all your psychic talents, tell me where I have ever wished death and destruction of anyone's 6.7 Ford? I would never wish anyone, even the worst of the bashers here, to have the experience that I have had in the hameful Event episode...to accuse me of that is just a lie!!!
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Regards
Some of your quotes do little to promote a positive discussion based on facts and supporting data, but here's some of your quotes that include attacks made by you:
"Whistling past the graveyard" (Source: FTE, RV.net)
"Troy must be the FTE fan boy's new KoolAid mixer." (Source: RV.net)
"The Blue KoolAid bunch ask for all kinds of irrelevant information to hide the basic facts of the situation" (Source: RV.net)
Respectably,
Troy
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Well YEA
My 02 was a lemon, built without a compression ring. The dealer, now extinct, tried to screw me and just honed and replaced the ring. Bottom line, the truck got ripped apart and was never right after. Long story short, the truck was replaced by Ford. They didn't want to but thats what happened. It was a lot of work and not really worth it but I just couldn't stand letting them get away with it. To bad, the 02 7.3 was probably the peak diesel.............
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From: Hot Springs
Hey guys can I chime in and say that I love my 11' Job1 and that its been the best SD i've owned to date... If something happened to it god forbid I would buy another one just like it in a 13' platform.
I've recently had a chance to drive some hunting club members new gm and dodge's HD's since we have been at hunting camp and they all love the way my truck handles the ugly back roads we seem to take each others trucks on to compare and the interior/power of the Ford.. I think I may have sold a ford or 2 for Fomoco!
I've recently had a chance to drive some hunting club members new gm and dodge's HD's since we have been at hunting camp and they all love the way my truck handles the ugly back roads we seem to take each others trucks on to compare and the interior/power of the Ford.. I think I may have sold a ford or 2 for Fomoco!
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From: Central Illinois
Nope, the waders were only for the above comment about "the [your] information campaign and the additive sales have minimized the problem". It's just a wee bit presumptuous don't you think.
Cheers,
Gavin