Best Programmer 2000 7.3 Powerstroke?!
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Joined: Jan 2011
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From: Puget Sound
I went with the F6 because I can use my netbook to interface with the tuner. I get all my tunes emailed to me when I add one or need them changed. I am getting ready to upgrade my injectors/turbo and my tunes have to be changed. I will be replacing my injectors, then hooking up my netbook to insert the tunes that were emailed to me in advance - allowing me to do the whole thing in one shot without waiting for an updated chip to arrive in the snail mail.
Tunes can actually help the transmission, if done correctly. Stock tunes are for a comfortable ride, but this is not always best for the transmission. Look at the old practice of putting in a shift kit to firm up the shifts for towing. This can be done with tuning (to a degree). It's still best to have a better valve body and torque converter than the stock 4R100... in order to take what a chipped 7.3L can dish out. I know almost nothing about transmissions, but I've had my learning curve bent skyward when I blew my old one up before chipping.
There is a lot of preperation that really should be in place before considering any chip. Gauges! OMG Gauges! You won't find anybody here that disagrees with this... and for many reasons. I found a lot of things to be very tired on my truck at 220K (I now have 260K) and I fixed them all. Just getting the truck to 100% of it's former self gave me a real bump in performance and fuel economy. The last link in my signature will have plenty of tips on how to do this. Pre-turbo exhaust leaks are common at your odo reading, air gets in the fuel (Hutch mod in my sig), stock air intake just handles stock boost, the injector connectors can arc because of a flaw in the design (search 50-cent mod), etc....
In summation: Getting the truck to 100% (with aid from the FTE brotherhood - to keep it inexpensive), adding gauges, and making sure the transmission will handle it has really helped me to coax the beast to awaken - while giving me excellent economy. Here is my trip meter and fuel gauge before a fill-up.
Tunes can actually help the transmission, if done correctly. Stock tunes are for a comfortable ride, but this is not always best for the transmission. Look at the old practice of putting in a shift kit to firm up the shifts for towing. This can be done with tuning (to a degree). It's still best to have a better valve body and torque converter than the stock 4R100... in order to take what a chipped 7.3L can dish out. I know almost nothing about transmissions, but I've had my learning curve bent skyward when I blew my old one up before chipping.
There is a lot of preperation that really should be in place before considering any chip. Gauges! OMG Gauges! You won't find anybody here that disagrees with this... and for many reasons. I found a lot of things to be very tired on my truck at 220K (I now have 260K) and I fixed them all. Just getting the truck to 100% of it's former self gave me a real bump in performance and fuel economy. The last link in my signature will have plenty of tips on how to do this. Pre-turbo exhaust leaks are common at your odo reading, air gets in the fuel (Hutch mod in my sig), stock air intake just handles stock boost, the injector connectors can arc because of a flaw in the design (search 50-cent mod), etc....
In summation: Getting the truck to 100% (with aid from the FTE brotherhood - to keep it inexpensive), adding gauges, and making sure the transmission will handle it has really helped me to coax the beast to awaken - while giving me excellent economy. Here is my trip meter and fuel gauge before a fill-up.
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Joined: May 2008
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From: Liberty Lake, WA
^^ Good post Tugly ^^
I've used DP Tuner along with several other tuners. My truck alway ran the best and made the most power with DP Tunes. I found Jody the easiest to work with, get tunning changes and upgrades were seamless.
I've used DP Tuner along with several other tuners. My truck alway ran the best and made the most power with DP Tunes. I found Jody the easiest to work with, get tunning changes and upgrades were seamless.
i ain't rite
Joined: Mar 2005
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From: Marlboro Mental Hospital.
i think you guys misunderstood that smoke post of mine. when i said the 120 tune only makes black smoke, i meant i do not use it. i have found that the 80 econo tune gives me better performance, better power, and better 1/4 mile times than the 120 tune.
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Tuned
Joined: Jan 2012
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I went with the F6 because I can use my netbook to interface with the tuner. I get all my tunes emailed to me when I add one or need them changed. I am getting ready to upgrade my injectors/turbo and my tunes have to be changed. I will be replacing my injectors, then hooking up my netbook to insert the tunes that were emailed to me in advance - allowing me to do the whole thing in one shot without waiting for an updated chip to arrive in the snail mail.
Tunes can actually help the transmission, if done correctly. Stock tunes are for a comfortable ride, but this is not always best for the transmission. Look at the old practice of putting in a shift kit to firm up the shifts for towing. This can be done with tuning (to a degree). It's still best to have a better valve body and torque converter than the stock 4R100... in order to take what a chipped 7.3L can dish out. I know almost nothing about transmissions, but I've had my learning curve bent skyward when I blew my old one up before chipping.
There is a lot of preperation that really should be in place before considering any chip. Gauges! OMG Gauges! You won't find anybody here that disagrees with this... and for many reasons. I found a lot of things to be very tired on my truck at 220K (I now have 260K) and I fixed them all. Just getting the truck to 100% of it's former self gave me a real bump in performance and fuel economy. The last link in my signature will have plenty of tips on how to do this. Pre-turbo exhaust leaks are common at your odo reading, air gets in the fuel (Hutch mod in my sig), stock air intake just handles stock boost, the injector connectors can arc because of a flaw in the design (search 50-cent mod), etc....
In summation: Getting the truck to 100% (with aid from the FTE brotherhood - to keep it inexpensive), adding gauges, and making sure the transmission will handle it has really helped me to coax the beast to awaken - while giving me excellent economy. Here is my trip meter and fuel gauge before a fill-up.
Tunes can actually help the transmission, if done correctly. Stock tunes are for a comfortable ride, but this is not always best for the transmission. Look at the old practice of putting in a shift kit to firm up the shifts for towing. This can be done with tuning (to a degree). It's still best to have a better valve body and torque converter than the stock 4R100... in order to take what a chipped 7.3L can dish out. I know almost nothing about transmissions, but I've had my learning curve bent skyward when I blew my old one up before chipping.
There is a lot of preperation that really should be in place before considering any chip. Gauges! OMG Gauges! You won't find anybody here that disagrees with this... and for many reasons. I found a lot of things to be very tired on my truck at 220K (I now have 260K) and I fixed them all. Just getting the truck to 100% of it's former self gave me a real bump in performance and fuel economy. The last link in my signature will have plenty of tips on how to do this. Pre-turbo exhaust leaks are common at your odo reading, air gets in the fuel (Hutch mod in my sig), stock air intake just handles stock boost, the injector connectors can arc because of a flaw in the design (search 50-cent mod), etc....
In summation: Getting the truck to 100% (with aid from the FTE brotherhood - to keep it inexpensive), adding gauges, and making sure the transmission will handle it has really helped me to coax the beast to awaken - while giving me excellent economy. Here is my trip meter and fuel gauge before a fill-up.
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Tuned
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I understood that. I just meant that for a stock truck that cant even keep up with the airflow that the tuner requires, that black smoke is, just as was said before, money out the exhaust. I'm sure that a more modified truck could handle the 120 tune smokeless!
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i ain't rite
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From: Marlboro Mental Hospital.
with a full 4 inch intake tube and 12 inch long, 8 inch across circular air filter, it is definitely not starving for air.
it is the nature of the extreme tune in a truck that has not been live tuned.
i would like to switch over to the F-6 chip, and get live tuned, but with my current health and work conditions money is pretty tight.
it is the nature of the extreme tune in a truck that has not been live tuned.
i would like to switch over to the F-6 chip, and get live tuned, but with my current health and work conditions money is pretty tight.
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Tuned
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with a full 4 inch intake tube and 12 inch long, 8 inch across circular air filter, it is definitely not starving for air.
it is the nature of the extreme tune in a truck that has not been live tuned.
i would like to switch over to the F-6 chip, and get live tuned, but with my current health and work conditions money is pretty tight.
it is the nature of the extreme tune in a truck that has not been live tuned.
i would like to switch over to the F-6 chip, and get live tuned, but with my current health and work conditions money is pretty tight.
i ain't rite
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From: Marlboro Mental Hospital.
i use a 6637 filter hooked up to the stock intake tube.
i cant see spending $300 for a "cold air intake kit" to do the same thing i did for $29, and i get better air intake and filtering than the junk K&N filters the kits give
i cant see spending $300 for a "cold air intake kit" to do the same thing i did for $29, and i get better air intake and filtering than the junk K&N filters the kits give
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Tuned
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Yet another reason why this forum is great! A better truck for less money! Thanks for the tip! This leaves quite a bit of money for other goodies!
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From: Marlboro Mental Hospital.
yup. with the money you save by buying the 6637 from clay and using a piece of 4 inch schedule 40 PVC to hook it to the stock intake hose, that leaves you with close to 3/4 of the price of the auto enginuity already saved.
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Originally Posted by Superchips
.......the ability to tune a second vehicle from the same OEM family on one tuner with our Multivin application. The second vehicle tuning is available exclusively through Superchips internet update store**.
** The Multivin feature currently covers Ford and General Motors applications for an additional charge of $199.
** The Multivin feature currently covers Ford and General Motors applications for an additional charge of $199.