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Jul 19, 2012 | 10:43 AM

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Toreador_Diesel

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I called around this morning to get prices (3 recommended shops) on a rebuild and the price was consistant around $2800. I went to the dealer and discussed their quote and found they were $3000 for the tranny and R&R and $440 for the cooler and labor to change it out. They had rounded up for taxes and shop costs to cover the estimate. I asked them what was the best price for everything and they figured the labor at a lower rate and took a few $ off the tranny price, dropped the tow and diagnostic fees, and settled on $3400 and I get a $175 credit for future services. This Ford rebuilt unit has a 3 year unlimited milage warranty backed by Ford and I figure this is worth a few bucks. Anyway, sometimes things just happen and you gotta suck it up. Thanks for all the replies.

Scott

If it's not too late, make sure they put in the HD4R100, it has some stronger internals and that can take more of a beating.

Also, make absolutely certain they put in the Magnefine in-line transmission filter, otherwise you'll be back at the dealer in a month or two having it replaced all over again.

This happened to me February 2006 when the dreaded mechanical diode grenaded and took my trans with it. The put the reman in, but didn't put in the magnefine in-line filter. After a month and a half of driving, metal particles ate the front pump and chewed up some of the internals. They added the filter and it never happened again.

Here's the original one from the Ford reman in 2006. I mistakenly ran it 200K, not knowing that the proper change interval was 30K with every flush.

Here's what I found inside:

Another angle of the bag I had it in:

The internal magnet clean:

How I found it:

It did it's job and between it and flushes, it helped my Ford reman last over 220K and counting. (knock on wood)

Jul 19, 2012 | 11:33 AM

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ScotF150

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The service manager told me that when they dropped the pan to inspect it was full of metal. During the service on Monday the tech said everything was clean and the fluid wasn't discolored at all. On the drive home it did shift hard once but I didn't think anything of it but it could've broke something. I can't say they did anything wrong this time but they have always been good to do business with and I have no reason to think otherwise. This is a small dealer in a small town and the owners are almost always around and their reputation is what keeps them in business. Its easy to fall into the "stealership" mentality but sometimes you just gotta believe honest people still exist. Just saying....
As for the replacement unit, the service manager said this one had the improved input shaft and clutch plates. He also said the cooler can't be cleaned 100% and recommended replacing it due to the metal in the pan. They work on these trucks everyday and his argument seemed to have merit. I'll ask about the inline filter and follow their recommendations. Those pictures certianly justify one.

Thanks for the feedback,

Scott

Jul 19, 2012 | 12:43 PM

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Great to hear! No really!

In that case, unless they offered you an awesome price on it, I'd have them fit your truck with a 6.0 trans cooler. Your trans will never fail again due to heat, that's for sure.

I'm sure there are a few junkyards around you that should have one in good shape for $125 or so.

Jul 19, 2012 | 12:48 PM

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Is the inline filter a good thing to add on a stock 4R100? Mine has 277k on it and I'm trying to keep it as long as I can untill I can afford a new one

Jul 19, 2012 | 01:10 PM

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Is the inline filter a good thing to add on a stock 4R100? Mine has 277k on it and I'm trying to keep it as long as I can untill I can afford a new one

Most definitely, it only does your trans good.

Between that and following Mark's flush procedure, you should be good.

Jul 26, 2012 | 09:11 AM

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Got it back!

Got the Ex back on Tuesday and it's running great. It shifts alot smoother than the old one did. I'm not happy about having to spend the $3500 but its still cheaper than replacing the vehicle.

Thanks for all the replies,

Scott

Jul 26, 2012 | 09:27 AM

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Up to a certain point (well in the future) it's always cheaper to replace whatever breaks than to get a new vehicle.
I've done this on several cars over time. Keeping a good eye on things happening and signals helps predict failures so you won't get stuck in the wrong place and/or the wrong time.

Jul 27, 2012 | 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ZBIGBIG19TH

Funny it happens after you serviced at the dealer.

No kidding, drive to dealer OK, drive home OK, park OK, get up next morning No Go,
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Sorry didn't read far enough to see you got it fixed, good to hear