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Old May 3, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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2 dealers, 2 diagnosis for same codes???

My o/d light started flashing on my 2000 Ranger 4x4 xlt w/25,000 miles. Took it to Dealer "A" who said the test showed codes p0732 & p1756 and I would need the valve body replaced @ $1,000.00. Got second opinion at Dealer "B" today who showed same codes but also dropped the pan and mech said there was suit in the fluid and therefore some bands and clutches were probably burnt and I need a new (rebuilt) tranny @ $1,910.96 or overhaul this one @ $2,482.25. I believe these codes refer to Shift Solenoid 2 failure and incorrect gear ratio. This seems crazy with so few miles. I have not found any recalls or TSB about this. I don't know who to believe. Please help.
 
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Old May 3, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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Welcome to FTE!

Some info on those codes can be found here:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...49&postcount=3

Maybe you can let a local tranny shop take a look for a 3rd opinion. Find a reputable one.

I've heard of some other people who've had problems with the valve body on their 5R55E.
 
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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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Hmmm 25,000 miles and Ford will not stand behind their transmission? Suggest that you visit a website Alldata.com, go to the do-it-yourself area and scan for Service Bulletins for your truck. Anything at all that relates to your transmission you will have a barganing chip.

We had one automatic transmission start acting up a few years ago, I took it to the local Lincoln/Mercury folk who took care of it. There was a TSB out. Pretty good since the selling dealer is in Texas somewhere.

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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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I'm aware that some of the earlier 5R55E trannys were blowing out some of the gasket on the valve body and I think there was a TSB on this. I don't recall what they symptoms were.
 
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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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On a whim I just checked Alldata: TSB 03-22-10 dated 11/03 regarding 2nd and 3rd gear in the automatic transmissions.

Gogetem

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Old May 3, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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Article No.
03-22-10 TRANSMISSION - 4R44E - 4R55E - 5R44E - 5R55E - LOW LINE PRESSURE READING AT WIDE OPEN THROTTLE (WOT) - POSSIBLE DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODES P0732, P0733, P1762 - VEHICLES BUILT BEFORE 12/1/2001

Publication Date: October 30, 2003

FORD: 1995-2001 EXPLORER
1995-2002 RANGER
1996-1997 AEROSTAR
2000-2002 EXPLORER SPORT
2001-2002 EXPLORER SPORT TRAC
MERCURY: 1997-2001 MOUNTAINEER


This article supersedes TSB's 03-11-9, 02-13-8 and 02-08-2 to update the model coverage.

ISSUE:
Some vehicles built prior to 12/1/2001 may exhibit the following shift and engagement conditions:

No 2nd Gear
No 3rd Gear
No Engine Braking In Manual 1st.
Out of specification pressures controlled by the transmission main control valve body separator plate may be the cause.

ACTION:
Verify the condition, the main control valve body separator plate may need to be updated to the latest level. Refer to the following Service Procedure for details.

SERVICE PROCEDURE

CAUTION: A NEW SEPARATOR 7Z490 MUST BE USED WHEN INSTALLING THE SPECIAL SERVICE KIT 7M203 OR ADDITIONAL TRANSMISSION DAMAGE MAY OCCUR. REFER TO THE PARTS APPLICATION CHART IN THIS ARTICLE FOR CORRECT SEPARATOR PLATE PART LISTING.



NOTE: THIS ARTICLE DOES NOT APPLY TO ANY OTHER CONDITIONS OR COMPONENTS THAT MAY CAUSE SIMILAR SYMPTOMS AND IS ONLY WRITTEN TO COVER THESE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS.



NOTE: AN IN-LINE SERVICE FILTER IS NOT REQUIRED TO BE ADDED OR REPLACED FOR THIS TSB.



Verify that one or more of the following conditions exist.
Low Line Pressure While In Drive At WOT
No 2nd And/Or No 3rd Gear
No Engine Braking In Manual 1st
DTC P0732, P0733 Or P1762
Install Kit (3L5Z-7M203-JA) to update the main control valve body assembly, refer to the installation procedures found in the kit.
Reinstall the main control by continuing to follow the installation steps listed in the Workshop Manual, in-vehicle service, main control valve body.
After completing the procedure, verify the condition has been corrected.
Clear all DTCs.
 
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Old May 3, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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Article No.
99-8-14 TRANSMISSION - 4R44E/5R55E - SERVICE PROCEDURE FOR ORANGE SERVICE TAGGED TRANSMISSIONS

Publication Date: APRIL 26, 1999

LIGHT TRUCK: 1999-2000 RANGER


ISSUE:
Beginning with 1999 vehicle Job 1, the 4R44E and 5R55E are installed in all model Rangers with an automatic transmission. Beginning in May 1999, Ford Motor Company is requesting dealership personnel to contact the Company prior to major overhaul or exchange. Select 1999 and 2000 transmissions will have an orange "PRIOR TO REPAIR" tag ( Figure 1 ) on the fluid pan. The orange tag refers to TSB 99-8. This TSB provides the necessary instructions to be carried out before calling the toll-free telephone number. This toll-free number, ***, is to be used by all U.S. dealers ONLY for further service direction (not applicable outside the U.S.). If you leave a message and do not hear back in 15 minutes proceed with normal repairs.

ACTION:
Between May 1999 and May 31, 2000, do not disassemble these tagged transmissions. Perform the required diagnostic steps, record your findings, and ensure that an overhaul is required on one of these tagged transmissions. Then contact Ford Motor Company at the toll-free number if there is a concern involving one of these transmissions. For 2000 Ranger, after May 31, 2000, follow the 2000 Ranger Workshop Manual diagnosis and repair procedures.

SERVICE PROCEDURE
Use the following procedure when servicing these transmissions:

Check and record the transmission fluid level and condition.
If low, fill to the proper level and check for a leak.
If a leak is the only concern, carry out the repair.
Check the vehicle harness connectors for the proper installation at the transmission 16-pin case connector, Digital Transmission Range (DTR) sensor, and Output Shaft Speed (OSS) sensor (if equipped).
Using your diagnostic equipment, carry out the Quick Tests and record all codes.
If no fault codes are present, go to Step 5. If fault codes are present, carry out the required engine pinpoint tests as listed in the Powertrain Control/Emissions Diagnosis (PC/ED) Service Manual first. Carry out the required pinpoint tests for transmissions found in the Workshop Manual. Repair all NON-transmission codes and verify if the transmission symptom still exists.
If a transmission symptom still exists, go to Diagnosis By Symptom Routines in the Workshop Manual to determine what components internal to the transmission may be causing the concern. If internal components are indicated, install the appropriate diagnostic equipment that allows you to control transmission operations. Using the appropriate procedure for the selected equipment, carry out road test procedures to verify transmission operation.
If the transmission fails to operate and requires an overhaul or exchange, call Ford Motor Company toll-free at *** between the hours of 7:30am and 6:00pm EST (All U.S. ONLY).
NOTE: DO NOT DISASSEMBLE ANY TRANSMISSION PRIOR TO CALLING THIS TOLL-FREE NUMBER .



The following information is a mandatory requirement when calling the toll-free number:

Transmission Service Tag Information (found on the extension housing)
Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs)
Fluid level and condition
Transmission operation verification results
If there is a service concern involving one of the following transmission models (refer to Application Chart), call the toll-free number between the hours of 7:30am and 6:00pm EST Monday through Friday (a recorder is on 24 hours per day).
 
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