What has he changed and do you know why and can you share that info?

Thanks
Sean

 

I'm sorry, but I find this statement totally uninformed. I know lots of folks who have the BPD kit in northern climates who have absolutely no issue with the cooler even in very cold weather. The thermostat works very well on the cold weather kit. As far as no cooling at idle, you can't be serious. I've seen my EOT cooler than my ECT even in 115* ambient temps on black pavement in stop and go traffic with the AC running and neither temp being over 210*.

 

well, with my van, the cooler is mounted behind the front
bumper, and people have said that won't cool in slow speeds
in hot weather, but i was sitting in stop and go traffic in san
bernadino on I-10 when it was 108, and IAT was 131, and
neither oil or coolant hit 200. oil temp sat at 199 for a very
long time tho.... ;-)

it seems that the main problem everyone has with the unit
is the price. it's high. it's even more expensive for the van.

and having my work van down for a week screwing with the
oil cooler plugging up again does not appeal much to me.
neither does anguish over what combination of coolant,
flush rituals, and blood sacrifice of small animals is required
to appease the engine gods and prevent the clogging.

 

And I can't say that I disagree but how much is uninterrupted service and peace of mind worth, and how many trips to a dealership for a repeat oil cooler service does it take to pay for ONE BPD unit???

 

Personally, the prices are the major factor, neither of the companies are "fly by night". They both have significant investments in their systems, and I have yet to hear that anyone has been hung out to dry, they both seem to have great customer service about any issues. I'm waiting for an ipr kit that would be geared toward those of us that already have egr deletes. I would like to see a kit that leaves the oc in the oem location, just sells the gen2 coolant redirect piece, no block off plate or up pipe, with the coolant manifold integrated into the redirect piece, and their high flow filter. Even tho it doesn't filter before the oc. I would also like to see a different mounting location for the filter. Just worried about the mess it would make when unscrewing the cap off of the filter block. I'd like to mount it under the truck, upside down.

 

I think the Bulletproof Oil Cooler Relocation Kit is a great product by a great company. I had just hoped that all the hype I had seen in regard to the new IPR setup was true... and maybe it is true if installed correctly? Time will tell. I quite like the ability to utilize the factory oil cooler and have liquid cooled vs. air cooled.... I believe the two help each other out pretty well in colder climates. Now that the 15 degree delta deal is pounded into everyones (almost everyones) cranium, the ease of replacing the oil cooler with the IPR kit was a big plus for me as well as the pre-filter...... and yes cost is key... I am just looking forward to some more "positive" reviews and vids on the IPR setup before I make that purchase. As I'm sure others are as well.

 

I'm just curious what are the downsides to BPD's kit then besides cost? I understand that the thermostat should get the oil up to temp, but I can't see how there's no downside to not using the coolant to warm/cool it anymore. I guess I could see how the oil doesn't overheat in traffic because oil temp is based on load of the engine and if you're not loading it up it's not going to overheat. One thing I do like is the external filter from the BPD kit instead of the cartridge OEM filter. I just think 2400 dollars of a freaking oil cooler is ridiculous. I spent 100 dollars on the setup for my S4.

 

I think the BPD price is the only problem I have seen, looks like a quality product. I could never justify spending that much $ on external oil cooler when I could buy 5-6 oem oil coolers for that price.

 

I hope everyone is aware the deltas Only matter when you have the factory oil cooler installed. If you eliminate the oil cooler with the BPD unit deltas no longer matter. I could really care less how high my deltas get now. As far as price is concerned , well you get what you pay for. It is a well designed ,well thought out , well tested unit, nothing in their kit is rinky dink. Lol......with my very limited knowledge I installed the BPD kit in 4 days. During my install I had 2 separate questions on 2 separate occasions and I called them. I had a mechanic on the phone in seconds to answer my questions. I think that speaks volumes. From the time I completed the install almost a year ago I have had ZERO issues to date. .."................As far as any other oil cooler relocation kit . I cannot speak about as I have no experience with any of them

 

I agree it is steep, my justification for it was, if I had to pay a mechanic to replace mine, and have it clog again within a couple thousand miles and have to pay for it again, well we are almost at the price of the unit. So thanks to YouTube and senior master tech, Lmfao, I did the work myself. I just never wanted to have to tear into the motor that deep for the same thing again. It is not fun

 

very well said raptor!

 

Senior Master Tech on Youtube is awesome! That guy has helped me tons in the past. I was also contemplating doing the oil cooler relocation deal myself and using his vids as a bit of a guide (I have watched them probably 10 times easy.... no exaggeration either!) but I'm still a bit gun-shy going that deep. I would likely have to hire someone.

 

It's very hard to convince anyone to spend more money than what an OEM oc cost when their labor is free to themselves. For most folks they have to pay a shop to do it plus the price of the parts and an imminent failure down the road if they decide to keep the truck long enough. I always tell my customers to do the math, numbers don't lie.
The 6.0 has been out on the market for 9 years now and there are only 2 companies that developed an external oil cooler that actually works. The lubrication system on a 6.0 is very complex and takes a lot of ingenuity, work and tooling cost to make it work. All this work and time cost money to develop.
It's unfair to speculate what a system may do or not do if one has never used one, installed one, or tried to design one. Both systems had been designed by respected companies in the industry, certainly not the fly by night folks that slap their names on every product they can copy. Have some faith in us.

 

I just installed a kit from IPR.
I got the oil cooler relocation kit with coolant filter and coolant manifold and egr delete.
I also got an Edge Insight CTS.
My truck is a 2004 first generation 6.0.
I have been test driving the truck quite a bit by working it.
I towed a 6000 lb chipper up the interstate for about an hour and around town a bunch.
Couple days later I hooked up the plow and plowed snow for about 18 hours over two days.
The truck also has an 1800 lb homemade steel body on it and that had about 1500 lbs of sand in it while I was plowing...not quite a normal pickup.
The kit was went together without too much messin around...the only real problems I had were of my own making.
I also ended up doing exhaust manifold gaskets and hardware, new up pipe, new y pipe, new glow plug harnesses, new thermostat, new lower radiator hose, water flush and new cat coolant, new fuel filters, modified block drain plugs.......................all I can remember right now
My ECT and EOT are exactly where they should be when my coolant filter is clean.
When the filter is clean the spread will be between 0 and 8.
When the spread goes over 20 I clean the filter
Right now that is every 2 days.
The service is simple
I drain a gallon of coolant and unscrew the filter by hand normally dont spill a drop.
My coolant temp normally is 188-192...If i have a plow on it will go up to almost 220 before the fan cools it off, even then my oil has been right around 228..........but that is with a clean filter
When the thermostat opens fully I notice the filter clog up quickly.
I just ordered another coolant filter for quick change out.
The filter is completely serviceable it is stainless mesh and catches an unbelievable amount of sand.