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Yes!!! Jacks sounds like he is rite on the money!!!! Ok, so is there a way to make the smaller flywheel work with the larger bell housing? If not, I have the larger flywheel is it possible to get it balanced for the newer motor?
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Jack may have the answer. I don't do small blocks. If the flywheel is for the engine is the starter for the engine? You only have 3 pcs involved here. Starter, flywheel & bell housing. All you have to do is match the 3 pcs.
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read through this:
Ford Flywheels and Flexplates
again, this is out of my area, but i think your problem is that the 302 flywheel diameter is physically smaller than the 300 flywheel.
the problem is that you're using the original truck bellhousing, and it is holding your starter farther out, and keeping it from engaging with the smaller flywheel that you are now using.
if you could put the 300 flywheel on the 302 engine, you'd be back in business.
if you DO have to start swapping flywheels around, make sure you get the balance right. i don't think the balance from your original truck flywheel is the same as the Mustang 5.0 flywheel you're using.
again- don't take my word for it, verify everything you can.
Ford Flywheels and Flexplates
again, this is out of my area, but i think your problem is that the 302 flywheel diameter is physically smaller than the 300 flywheel.
the problem is that you're using the original truck bellhousing, and it is holding your starter farther out, and keeping it from engaging with the smaller flywheel that you are now using.
if you could put the 300 flywheel on the 302 engine, you'd be back in business.
if you DO have to start swapping flywheels around, make sure you get the balance right. i don't think the balance from your original truck flywheel is the same as the Mustang 5.0 flywheel you're using.
again- don't take my word for it, verify everything you can.
Last edited by rustywheel68; Apr 26, 2012 at 09:54 AM. Reason: added balance info
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right- because his original 300 flywheel has a 28oz balance, but the 302 needs 50oz.
correct?
my thinking is that he needs a 164-tooth-size flywheel, with a 50oz balance.
neither of the flywheels he has currently will work- the 302 flywheel is too small, and the 300 flywheel is the wrong balance.
edit- this link seems to say that the 300 has a zero imbalance.
http://fordsix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55958
that doesn't really change the issue- he still doesn't have a flywheel that will work. just more info.
correct?
my thinking is that he needs a 164-tooth-size flywheel, with a 50oz balance.
neither of the flywheels he has currently will work- the 302 flywheel is too small, and the 300 flywheel is the wrong balance.
edit- this link seems to say that the 300 has a zero imbalance.
http://fordsix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=55958
that doesn't really change the issue- he still doesn't have a flywheel that will work. just more info.
Last edited by rustywheel68; Apr 26, 2012 at 01:57 PM. Reason: more imbalance info
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the bell housing from the trans i am using is off of a 289/302 i also have the flywheel for it which is 164 tooth however i believe it is a 28 oz balance since it is from a 67 and i need a 50oz. now is there a 164 tooth option for a mustang flywheel? would a 1990s f150 with a 5.0 have a 164 tooth flywheel balanced at 50oz?
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Of get a bell housing of the 150 if that is where the engine came from. Bell housing from a 289/302? They built 302's from roughly '69 to right around 2001. Their small block actually started in '62. That's an awful big window. Any idea what year the bell housing is? Once again all you need is all 3 pcs to match. No matter how you come to that. Simple solution. Go to your local parts store and order a flywheel & starter for the exact year engine you have. Now go bell housing shopping for the same thing. End of story. If you have Mustang questions you are way better off looking in the Mustang forums.
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bell housing is off of a 67 f100. since it was a 67 im pretty sure the motor that was in that truck was a 289 since 302 didnt quite exist yet. the fly wheel from that 289 that fits in that bell housing is 164 teeth but 28oz balance. i need a fly wheel to fit a 302 (basically same engine) that is 164 teeth and is of 50 oz balance... the fly wheel for the mustang motor is 157 teeth thus too small for the starter to grab from where the starter mounts to the bell housing. pretty much i track down the rite fly wheel and my issue is solved!
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Late '80s/ early '90s F-150 w/ 5.0 & manual trans flywheel (about $80 at Napa) OR the mustang bell housing and starter.
Many of us EB guys have swapped mustang 5.0s into our rigs using the truck bell and stock manual trans or NP435 granny low 4spds. The key is the 164 tooth 50oz flywheel that came on the above mentioned F-150s.
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bell housing is off of a 67 f100. since it was a 67 im pretty sure the motor that was in that truck was a 289 since 302 didnt quite exist yet. the fly wheel from that 289 that fits in that bell housing is 164 teeth but 28oz balance. i need a fly wheel to fit a 302 (basically same engine) that is 164 teeth and is of 50 oz balance... the fly wheel for the mustang motor is 157 teeth thus too small for the starter to grab from where the starter mounts to the bell housing. pretty much i track down the rite fly wheel and my issue is solved!
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