help! hot rod project.
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help! hot rod project.
i have a 1969 F100 styleside that i have been playing with. i pulled the inline 6 and three on the tree and put in a 4spd toploader from a 67 f100, and a 1990 5.0 302 H.O from a mustang gt. the issue i ran into is that the mustang flywheel is smaller then a truck flywheel so the starter doesn't reach. how can i solve this issue (maybe without changing the flywheel)? thanks
and for all who are wondering why on earth i went to the trouble of swapping a 302 into it instead of a big block.... well my 1990 302 has been converted to carbeurated, ported heads, edelbrock intake ported to match, ford racing f303 cam, msd crate motor ignition, high preformance electric fuel system, long tube headers... oh and nitrous... all that infront of a 4spd and an 8.8 with the right gears sitting on 20's really makes the power without breaking the bank.
and for all who are wondering why on earth i went to the trouble of swapping a 302 into it instead of a big block.... well my 1990 302 has been converted to carbeurated, ported heads, edelbrock intake ported to match, ford racing f303 cam, msd crate motor ignition, high preformance electric fuel system, long tube headers... oh and nitrous... all that infront of a 4spd and an 8.8 with the right gears sitting on 20's really makes the power without breaking the bank.
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Welcome to FTE. Hope you can stick around long enough to learn a little, rather than teaching us about what you don't know. Take your hate comments back to the chebby group of friends. We are Ford truck owners here not haters. 
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Thanks for the welcome. I own 2 fords, and bleed blue. I am just sick and tired of being told I should have went with a big block... That is all. No chebbie friends and no accusations just a friendly traveler seeking knowledge.
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Welcome to the board, sounds like an awesome combo. To go with you swap, I have one that's going the opposite route, 302 to straight 6. It's my toy not my hauler. But to answer your question, I'm not sure there is a way to fix that without changing out the flywheel. Maybe someone that knows a bit more will chime in with a solution. Anyways, glw the build and do what you want to do.
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interesting.
this is kind of out of my area, but it sounds like you need to find a way to use the 302 bellhousing.
i've read where guys have put the Mustang tranny behind the truck engine, by using the truck bellhousing with an adapter behind to mate it all up. that takes care of the longer input shaft on the Mustang T5.
your issue is the opposite...with an adapter plate between the Mustang bell and the truck trans, your input shaft won't be long enough.
this is kind of out of my area, but it sounds like you need to find a way to use the 302 bellhousing.
i've read where guys have put the Mustang tranny behind the truck engine, by using the truck bellhousing with an adapter behind to mate it all up. that takes care of the longer input shaft on the Mustang T5.
your issue is the opposite...with an adapter plate between the Mustang bell and the truck trans, your input shaft won't be long enough.
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Wow whose truck is it? Then why the need to explain why you chose a 302? I see no way around changing the flywheel.
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The reason for choosing the waste of time big block is longevity. 400hp out of a 302 vs. 400hp out of a 460. The 302 will lay down & give up the ghost way before the 460 does under identical conditions. Not to mention 460's came with 365hp in some versions which can be built with stock parts. Sounds like a whole lot of money into your 302 to get what I already have. I went the other way. I pulled a 302 in favor of a 460.
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The reason for choosing the waste of time big block is longevity. 400hp out of a 302 vs. 400hp out of a 460. The 302 will lay down & give up the ghost way before the 460 does under identical conditions. Not to mention 460's came with 365hp in some versions which can be built with stock parts. Sounds like a whole lot of money into your 302 to get what I already have. I went the other way. I pulled a 302 in favor of a 460.
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My girlfriend always says my input shaft in not long enough,maybe i need to change her bell housing.
LOL,sorry.
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LOL,sorry.
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yeah, i have the truck tranny and bell housing bolted up to mustang 302 and flywheel, the only problem is that the flywheel on the mustang motor is a little smaller so the starter doesn't catch, is it an option to put a larger gear on the starter? or maybe an offset starter to make up the gap? i have the flywheel from the 67 but it is the wrong ballance for the newer 302.
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I'd buy the proper flywheel so that when the starter eventually goes out/needs replaced the problem has already been corrected and there is no future headache. As far as building your little 302 I'm building a l6 so to each their own, I love the power that my 79f250 donor trucks 460 makes but I drove that thing across town and theres no way I am willing to feed that. My trucks a DD so the amount of extra power generated doesn't outway the cost of the swap and the increased running expenses. Not everyone drives or uses their truck in the same manner so opinions and preferences differ as a result.
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agreed, thats why i went 302, good power without stopping at every gas station. and the trans is off of a 289/302 so the starter and everything fits. however the ring gear for the mustang motor is smaller then the one off of the truck engine where i got the trans from, so the ring gear falls short of where the starter mounts to the bell housing.... im sorry if i keep repeating myself or am not explaining myself properly, this is kind of a strange problem to explain/have.
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The transmission has absolutely nothing to do with the flywheel. You could have pulled the trans from a 1930 Jaguar for all that matters. It is a simple problem. Is the flywheel the flywheel that belongs with the 302? If so you need to buy the matching starter. You still to date have not once stated where you got the flywheel. What the flywheel belongs to.
